Defense & Aerospace Report

DEFAERO Daily Pod [Aug 20, 25] JustinSherman on Russia’s Cyber Industry During the War on Ukraine

Aug 20, 2025
Justin Sherman, founder of Global Cyber Strategies and a fellow at the Atlantic Council, delves into the cyber warfare landscape amid the Russia-Ukraine conflict. He discusses the intricate blend of hacking and misinformation employed by Russia and highlights Ukraine's innovative use of patriotic hackers. The conversation touches on the repercussions of sanctions on companies like Kaspersky, which has become intertwined with the Russian government. Sherman also uncovers a significant operation targeting foreign embassies by exploiting a Microsoft vulnerability, illustrating the complexity of modern espionage.
Ask episode
AI Snips
Chapters
Transcript
Episode notes
INSIGHT

Cyber War: High Impact, Not Armageddon

  • The cyber war since 2014 saw both destructive and quiet espionage, but not the predicted ‘cyber Armageddon’.
  • Russia used varied cyber tools but scale and coordination fell short of some expectations.
INSIGHT

Cyber And Information Are One Russian Domain

  • Russia treats cyber and information as a single integrated domain called "information security" covering hacking to propaganda.
  • Operations mix technical intrusion, human intelligence and coercion to support kinetic aims.
ANECDOTE

Coercion To Access Encrypted Chats

  • Sherman recounts stories of Russians abducting and torturing people to gain access to chat groups used for coordination.
  • He contrasts Western rapid declassification and counter-messaging that undermined Russian doctored videos before the 2022 invasion.
Get the Snipd Podcast app to discover more snips from this episode
Get the app