348: Will Society Evolve Fast Enough? AI Ethics, Quantum Futures, and Rethinking Humanity with Dr. Mark van Rijmenam

Dr. Mark van Rijmenam is ranked as the world's best futurists and is known globally for his trademark “Optimistic Dystopian” viewpoint. Recognized by Salesforce as a top voice shaping the future of AI, he’s a sought-after speaker on the relationship between innovation and humanity. He delivered the world’s first TEDx Talk in VR (2020) and introduced a digital twin that speaks 29 languages (2024). Mark holds a PhD in Management from the University of Technology Sydney, where he studied how organizations can use big data, blockchain, and AI. He’s also a six-time author and dedicated endurance athlete.

In this conversation, we discuss:

• Why Dr. Mark van Rijmenam believes we need a paradigm shift to prepare society for the long-term consequences of AI and quantum computing
• The critical difference between building technology for shareholders versus stakeholders and how that shapes our future
• What the “spiral dynamics” framework reveals about humanity’s current worldview and its path toward a more interconnected mindset
• How banning technology for kids under 16 could protect future generations and reshape digital education
• The risks of anthropomorphizing AI and the need to preserve human agency in a world increasingly shaped by machines
• What inspired Dr. Mark’s sixth book Now What? and how he uses fiction, philosophy, and global cultures to help readers ride the tsunami of change

Resources:

• Subscribe to the AI & The Future of Work Newsletter
• Connect with Mark on LinkedIn
• AI fun fact article
• On Extending Life With AI
• Explore more from Dr. Mark van Rijmenam:
  • Now What? How to Ride the Tsunami of Change
  • Futurwise Platform — The Fastest Path to your Next Insight
  • Dr. Mark’s TEDx Talk in VR