Practice Disrupted by Practice of Architecture 201: Season 11 Opener with the Most Podern Podcast
What does it mean to be an architect today, and is the traditional path still the most valuable one?
To kick off Season 11, we welcome the three hosts of the Most Podern Podcast: Alex Yuen, Minkoo Kang, and Libo Li. They are three friends who, since their architectural education, have forged distinct, non-traditional careers that challenge the conventional definition of practice. The episode delves into their journeys as an architect-developer, an OMA designer turned developer and MIT instructor, and a self-proclaimed "career job changer" now working as a data engineer at Meta.
The conversation starts by exploring the complex relationship between title and identity. How do you introduce yourself when your work spans architecture, development, academia, and big tech? This question opens up a candid discussion about the profession's insecurities, the value of an architectural education versus its real-world blind spots (like economics and finance), and the constant struggle to define and advocate for the value architects provide.
The hosts debate whether people like them, who have stepped outside the traditional lines, make it harder to define that value, or if they are simply responding to a profession in need of new models. They tackle the "rule books" architects often ignore, the ones written by capitalism and market forces, and question the cultural mindset that often prevents practitioners from adapting.
"The hypothesis should be - design is not valuable and you should try to disprove that, which is a totally different way of looking at the problem." - Libo Li
This episode is packed with invaluable advice for both aspiring architects and fed-up mid-career professionals. From questioning your professors to getting comfortable with discomfort and learning to code, the hosts share actionable steps for anyone looking to make a change. Finally, they look to the future, discussing the end of the "Starkitect" era, the potential for AI to create single-person powerhouse firms, and why finding a support network is critical to making any leap.
Guests:
Alex Yuen is a licensed architect, educator, and co-founder of Co, a California-based design and development firm focused on affordable housing. He also teaches urban design at the Harvard Graduate School of Design.
Minkoo Kang is an architect-turned-developer and an instructor at MIT's Center for Real Estate. A former designer at OMA, his work now focuses on understanding the financial forces that shape the built environment. He is the co-author of the newly released book, Value of Design.
Libo Li is a data engineer at Meta and the author of the newsletter Building Probable, which explores data and the built environment. A self-described "career job changer," his path has taken him from architecture to data engineering, startups, and now big tech, driven by a desire to learn from different industries.
Is This Episode for You?
This episode is for you if:
✅ You are navigating a non-traditional career with an architecture degree.
✅ You question the traditional definition of architectural value.
✅ You are a student considering a career in architecture and want a realistic perspective.
✅ You are a mid-career professional feeling "fed up" and contemplating a change.
✅ You are curious about how economics, tech, and AI are reshaping the future of practice.
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📍 Show Links:
- Connect with Alex Yuen on LinkedIn
- Connect with Minkoo Kang on LinkedIn
- Connect with Libo Li on LinkedIn
- Listen to the Most Podern Podcast
- Connect with Most Podern on LinkedIn
- Subscribe to Most Podern on Youtube
- Visit Most Podern Website
- Get Minkoo's book Value of Design
- Read Libo's newsletter Building Probable
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