Delve into the chaotic aftermath of the 2020 election as Trump sought ways to cling to power. Discover the controversial role of John Eastman and the astonishing theory that hinged on Mike Pence's complicity. Explore the historical parallels drawn with Hawaii's 1960 electoral issues, and how Trump's supporters attempted to contest votes. Uncover the scheme of fraudulent electors and the legal mess that ensued. This intense narrative reveals the unsettling tactics aimed at disrupting future elections.
Trump's team, relying on theories from constitutional lawyer John Eastman, sought to overturn the election results by fabricating electors.
Historical electoral controversies reveal evolving tactics by Trump supporters, who aim to disrupt future elections through grassroots mobilization.
Deep dives
The Fake Elector Scheme Unfolded
After the 2020 presidential election, a group of Republican electors in Arizona, led by Dr. Kelly Ward, staged a gathering to falsely present themselves as the official electors for Donald Trump, despite Joe Biden winning the state. They signed documents casting votes for Trump, which were considered fraudulent since they were not the certified electors. This rogue assembly mimicked procedures from historical events, specifically referencing a similar situation in 1960 where Democratic electors in Hawaii contested results, but in that case, the recount confirmed Kennedy's victory. While the Arizona group attempted to claim legitimacy, the actual certified ballots were being signed by Democratic electors simultaneously, illustrating the stark division and chaotic tactics employed by Trump supporters during this period.
Historical Context and Legal Implications
The podcast delves into how past electoral controversies, like the Hawaii 1960 scenario, provide precedent for current actions, yet the legal landscapes are markedly different. In 1960, discrepancies led to recounts, and the eventual certification favored Kennedy, contrasting with 2020, where recounts in several states affirmed Biden's victories. Notably, several key figures analyzed during this discussion, including constitutional law professor Dr. John Eastman, pushed questionable legal theories that ultimately had no grounding in law. Even some legal professionals within Trump's circle deemed these theories completely baseless, warning that embracing such an approach could incite chaos and conflict.
Plans for Future Electoral Disruption
Looking ahead, there are concerns about the emergence of new strategies aimed at disrupting future elections, with Trump supporters reportedly planning to manipulate the electoral certification process. These strategies involve mobilizing supporters at a grassroots level to target key counties, potentially jeopardizing legitimate election results by interfering with certification bodies. This shift reflects a learned lesson from previous events, demonstrating an evolution of tactics rather than an abandonment of disruptive intentions. Consequently, there is an expectation that while the exact fake elector scheme may not repeat, alternative methods of undermining the electoral process will emerge as preparations for the 2024 election unfold.
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