
If You're Listening
The world is on fire. There's a coup. Inflation is through the roof, and AI is taking our jobs. What does it all mean? Each week, Matt Bevan explains the biggest story in world news while hiding in his basement from assassins and authoritarian regimes.
Recent episodes include an exploration of the relationship between India and China, a closer look at the Saudi Arabian city of NEOM, the conflict in the Middle East, the assassination of Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh in Iran, and Ukraine's incursions into Vladimir Putin's Russia. Matt Bevan draws connections between stories from the past and the events of the present to help listeners understand world news and international affairs.
The podcast also features series about big moments in world news; previous series have focused on the United States presidential election, the United Kingdom's 14 years of Conservative Party leadership, Donald Trump's relationship with Russia, Donald Trump's presidency and promise to Make America Great Again, the Mueller Report, Vladimir Putin's scheme to destroy western democracies, how the relationship between Australia and China came to the verge of collapse, and Australia's turbulent history with climate change.
There's a new episode of If You're Listening every Thursday.
Latest episodes

Jun 4, 2025 • 21min
RFK Jr v Fluoride
Fluoride in drinking water has a storied past and is hailed as a major health advancement, yet it faces strong opposition and misinformation. The podcast explores how Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and the Trump Administration have reignited anti-fluoride movements, achieving bans in states like Utah and Florida. It also dives into broader issues, like the interplay between government policies, public health attitudes, and environmental concerns, questioning the future of initiatives like net zero emissions in the energy sector.

Jun 2, 2025 • 24min
How a world leader kept a secret from 1.4 billion people
Avani Dias, an ABC journalist and former South Asia correspondent, reveals the surprising truth about Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi's secret marriage. Modi has kept his wife hidden for decades, contrasting sharply with his public persona as a bachelor. The discussion uncovers his early life choices, the interplay of tradition and modernity, and the implications of his marital status on his political image. They also touch on his controversial social policies, including the uniform civil code, and the complex issues surrounding Kashmir, reflecting the tensions in India's nationalist politics.

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May 28, 2025 • 25min
Why Pakistan fights India
Tensions between Pakistan and India remain high despite a temporary ceasefire. The military's influence on Pakistan's politics is profound, intertwining national identity with civilian governance. The podcast delves into Kashmir's symbolic importance in the conflict and the role of military leadership in escalating hostilities. It also touches on how cricket diplomacy plays a surprising role in their political relationship, with upcoming matches potentially impacting diplomatic discussions. The exploration of these dynamics sheds light on the complex history of both nations.

May 21, 2025 • 22min
Why India fights Pakistan
Geopolitical tensions between India and Pakistan recently overshadowed a cricket match, highlighting the intersection of sports and conflict. The rich history of the Kashmir dispute is delved into, from 1947 struggles to modern-day hostilities. A violent incident involving a tourist adds a chilling layer to the perception of safety in Kashmir. Meanwhile, powerful factions in both countries weigh the political benefits of war, raising the stakes in this fraught rivalry. The underlying complexities of their shared history shape their future.

May 20, 2025 • 20min
Howard Lutnick and The Gates of Hell
Explore the emotional aftermath of 9/11 through the lens of Howard Lutnick and Cantor Fitzgerald’s tragic loss. Discover the intriguing connection between this disaster and Auguste Rodin's masterpiece, The Gates of Hell, which remains missing. The conversation dives into art's ability to resonate with human experience, contrasting historical sculptures with contemporary tragedy. Plus, uncover the mystery of artwork lost in the rubble, touching on ethical dilemmas of ownership and legacy. Who knew a tragic event could spark such fascinating discussions?

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May 14, 2025 • 25min
The man betting big on Trump's tariffs
Howard Lutnick, the controversial former Commerce Secretary under Trump, shares his gripping journey from Wall Street titan to a pivotal figure in America’s trade policies. The discussion dives into his rationale behind aggressive tariff strategies and the chaotic economic fallout that followed. Lutnick reflects on personal tragedies, including the impact of 9/11 on his career and philanthropy. With candor, he navigates the high-stakes world of trade negotiations, revealing the reckless gamble that might reshape America’s economic landscape.

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May 7, 2025 • 24min
Australia vs the Internet: Conservative kill screen
Explore the unexpected defeat of Conservative parties in Canada and Australia and the fallout of leadership changes. Delve into how social media and the endorsements from figures like Elon Musk have shaped political narratives. Discover the global impact of Musk and Trump on conservative politics, revealing tensions faced by local leaders. Analyze the challenges of nationalism amid economic concerns and the growing threat of misinformation undermining democracy. This lively discussion sheds light on the evolving landscape of political influence.

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Apr 30, 2025 • 26min
Australia vs the Internet: Misinformation overload
The influence of misinformation looms large over the upcoming Australian election, fueling public anxiety with myths like the 'death tax.' Social media's shifting verification model complicates trust and content moderation, raising tough questions about free speech. A troubling case of radicalization linked to online extremism underscores the dire consequences of misinformation. Meanwhile, the Australian government grapples with social media platforms over violent content, highlighting the clash between safety, responsibility, and freedom in the digital landscape.

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Apr 23, 2025 • 25min
Australia vs the Internet: RIP your newsfeed
Discover how tech billionaires shape political discourse and the fight between Australia and social media giants over funding local journalism. The podcast dives into the evolution of news delivery from print to pixels, raising questions about accountability. It also discusses significant legal challenges around defamation and the influence of Section 230 on internet responsibilities. Explore the tumultuous relationship between traditional media and tech platforms, spotlighting the impact of new regulations on the future of news in Australia.

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Apr 16, 2025 • 32min
The secret weapon that changed war forever
Marc Fennell, a distinguished host known for his work on ABC RN's "No One Saw It Coming," joins the discussion about the Confederate submarine HL Hunley. This innovative vessel attempted to revolutionize underwater warfare during the Civil War, leading to a tragic mission that marked a turning point. The engaging conversation weaves humor with historical insights, examining how this stealth technology has shaped military tactics and the significance of historical narratives in understanding modern conflicts. Fennell also touches on the cultural implications of victory in America.