The Tim Ferriss Show

#523: Dennis McKenna — The Depths of Ayahuasca: 500+ Sessions, Fundamentals, Advanced Topics, Science, Churches, Learnings, Warnings, and Beyond

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Jul 21, 2021
Dennis McKenna, a leading researcher in Amazonian ethnopharmacology, shares his incredible journey of over 40 years studying ayahuasca and its impact on human consciousness. He discusses the intricate relationship between traditional practices and modern scientific research while highlighting the unique ayahuasca rituals of the UDV church. McKenna also emphasizes the importance of ethical drug discovery and knowledge preservation of plant-based medicines. The conversation explores the balance between spirituality, science, and the implications of psychedelics on mental health.
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ANECDOTE

Meeting Schultes

  • Dennis McKenna first met Richard Evans Schultes at Harvard in 1974.
  • Schultes, a renowned ethnobotanist, advised McKenna to improve his chemistry and taxonomy skills.
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Unexpected Benefits

  • After not getting into Harvard, McKenna studied chemistry and taxonomy at Colorado State.
  • He developed a method to grow psilocybe cubensis mushrooms, described in the Psilocybin Magic Mushroom Grower's Guide.
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Shifting Focus

  • McKenna shifted his research focus from varrola to psilocybin mushrooms.
  • Schultes, whose specialty was higher plants, directed him to Dr. Alexander H. Smith at the University of Michigan.
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