In his law practice, Joey helps entrepreneurs protect their brands by securing trademarks. And he’s also a brand strategist and entrepreneur.

In this episode, he and Ernie talk about how he is able to find and hire virtual assistants for as little as $6 per hour. He also shares his special hack for learning things he needs to know by outsourcing the learning process. Yes, it sounds unusual but it will make sense once you hear him explain it.

• IndieLaw (Joey’s law firm website)
• Owning It (Joey’s podcast)
• Joey’s process doc template (which he mentioned in the show)
• Onlinejobs.ph
• Blinkist
• ClickUp
• Practice Panther
• Zapier
• Asana
• Slack

General Resources

• Learn to use technology to reduce friction & gain freedom with this resource: https://www.the8020lawyer.com/
• Focus on these essential tech tools for maximum traction in your practice.
• Take this short law practice assessment to identify your main strengths & weaknesses.

Thanks to Our Sponsors

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EPISODE CREDITS:

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