The Contractor Fight with Tom Reber

TCF1091: Why Tim Gave Back a $50k Deposit

Jan 15, 2026
Tim and Derek dive into the challenges of losing a $50,000 deposit and the unexpected twists of client interactions. They discuss the complexities of permits and the hidden blessings that may come from lost jobs. A client turning the project upside down highlights negotiation strategies and the importance of strong contractor relationships. Emphasizing the value of networking, they share how collaboration can turn potential setbacks into future opportunities. Lessons learned stress the balance of effort and reward in the business.
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ANECDOTE

$50k Pond Job Cancelled By Wetlands Rule

  • Tim accepted a $25,000 deposit on a $50k pond job that later required a wetlands permit.
  • The project was canceled and Tim returned the deposit when he learned the site was protected.
INSIGHT

Permits Can Void 'Locked-In' Deals

  • Wetlands and local permits can instantly kill a seemingly locked-in job.
  • Knowing local land-use restrictions matters as much as the sale itself for outdoor contractors.
ADVICE

Stick To Work You Actually Do

  • Avoid projects that require you to appear before commissions if you dislike permitting work.
  • Stick to the types of ponds and features you specialize in to preserve margin and sanity.
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