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(00:00) – Introduction

(05:43) – How R&AW operates

(08:43) – Key roles of R&AW

(14:48) – Understanding spies

(16:35) – Work distribution in R&AW

(19:29) – Double agent: Ravindra Singh’s story

(26:49) – R&AW's approach to double agents

(28:33) – CIA's approach to double agents

(33:09) – Building trust among R&AW officers

(38:31) – Everyone has a price

(39:43) – The highest price he paid

(43:43) – Funding and budget limitations

(44:14) – R&AW's recruitment process

(46:21) – Qualities needed in agents

(49:04) – Balancing friendship in operations

(50:21) – Sacrifices made by R&AW agents

(52:51) – Family life and responsibilities

(57:51) – R&AW officer’s salary

(59:15) – Amar Bhushan’s pre-R&AW life

(1:01:39) – Misconceptions about R&AW

(1:03:50) – Top intelligence agencies worldwide

(1:04:54) – How ISI operates

(1:06:32) – R&AW training process

(1:07:29) – Beating surveillance tactics

(1:10:34) – Life post-retirement

(1:11:34) – The "k*lling culture" in R&AW

(1:13:26) – Morality and ethics in intelligence

(1:14:26) – Regret after missions

(1:16:48) – Podcast conclusion

(1:17:18) – Outro

In the podcast, former R&AW officer Amar Bhushan shares an insider's perspective on India's intelligence agency. He discusses R&AW's mission to influence foreign governments, create instability, and support rebel groups, using Pakistan as a prime example. Amar Bhushan explains the intricate dynamics of trust within intelligence work, emphasizing that betrayal can have severe repercussions. As an atheist, he reflects on the moral complexities of the job, where loyalties can be manipulated. He addresses misconceptions about RAW, revealing that agents often lead ordinary lives without legal protections. Amar Bhushan outlines the sacrifices required, including the absence of work-life balance and personal relationships, and highlights the rigorous training agents undergo. He underscores the importance of a strong government to combat threats from foreign entities, including funding for separatist movements. Ultimately, Amar expresses no regrets about his choices, believing that actions taken for national security, even when morally ambiguous, are justified. Follow Amar Bhushan Here: Twitter: https://twitter.com/AmarBhushan9 To Know More, Follow Raj Shamani On ⤵︎ Instagram @RajShamani ⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/rajshamani/⁠⁠⁠ Twitter @RajShamani ⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/rajshamani⁠⁠⁠ Facebook @ShamaniRaj ⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/shamaniraj⁠⁠⁠ LinkedIn - Raj Shamani ⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/rajshamani/⁠⁠⁠ #podcast #figuringout #rajshamani #spy #rawofficer #amarbhushan #agent