The Daily Journalism, Interrupted: 7 Podcast Hosts on the State of the Media
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Dec 14, 2025 
In a lively discussion, Ben Shapiro, a conservative commentator known for his sharp analysis, highlights the erosion of trust in media and critiques legacy outlets. David Remnick, editor of The New Yorker, emphasizes the historical and cultural impacts of current press challenges, while comedian Andrew Schulz points out how algorithms distort audience engagement and sensationalism in news. Together, they discuss the implications of corporate ownership, the rise of partisanship, and the need for audience discernment in a fragmented media landscape.
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Trust Can Be Earned
- Amna Nawaz says people should still trust journalists who earn credibility despite widespread distrust.
- She argues authenticity and rigorous reporting give audiences reasons to rely on specific outlets.
Media Is Not A Single Thing
- Ben Shapiro argues you cannot meaningfully trust 'the media' as a single entity.
- He says credibility must be assessed per report and outlet rather than wholesale.
Define 'Media' To Judge Trust
- David Remnick reframes the question by asking which 'media' we mean.
- He emphasizes institutions must build trust over time and it should never be automatic.
