In this episode we’re joined by Dr. Matthew Elia, who is assistant professor of theology, race, and environment at Saint Louis University, and the author of The Problem of the Christian Master: Augustine in the Afterlife of Slavery (published by Yale University Press). Over the course of our conversation we talk about what Augustine had to say about slavery, as well as how Augustine relates to the master class of his day. Dr. Elia interrogates this history by bringing Augustine into conversations that he is not normally brought into, such as Black Studies. Team members on the episode from The Two Cities include: Dr. John Anthony Dunne and the Rev. Dr. Nathaniel Warne.

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