
The Two Cities
The Two Cities is a podcast dedicated to Theology, Culture, and Discipleship. Originally beginning as a blog back in 2011 (thetwocities.com), we have extended our eclectic array of theological integration to the world of podcasting. Co-hosts and contributors include: Dr. Amber Bowen, Dr. Josh Carroll, Dr. John Anthony Dunne, Dr. Grace Emmett, Jennifer Guo, Dr. Brandon Hurlbert, Stephanie Kate Judd, Dr. Grace Sangalang Ng, Stanley Ng, Rev. Dr. Chris Porter, Rev. Daniel Parham, Dr. Madison Pierce, Dr. Kris Song, Dr. Sydney Tooth, Rev. Dr. Nathaniel Warne, and Dr. Logan Williams. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Latest episodes

Jun 4, 2025 • 54min
Episode #280 - Ancient Slavery with Dr. Christy Cobb and Dr. Katherine Shaner
In this episode we’re joined by Dr. Christy Cobb and Dr. Katherine Shaner to talk about their new edited volume, Ancient Slavery and Its New Testament Contexts (published by Eerdmans). Dr. Christy Cobb is Associate Professor of Christianity in the Department of Religious Studies at the University of Denver, and Dr. Katherine Shaner is Associate Professor of New Testament at Wake Forest University School of Divinity. Over the course of the episode we discuss the different essays in the volume, what the inception of the collection was, Dr. Cobb and Dr. Shaner’s respective contributions to the book, and some of the intriguing developments on the scholarship of ancient slavery for understanding New Testament texts. Team members on the episode from The Two Cities include: the Rev. Dr. Nathaniel Adishian, Dr. John Anthony Dunne, and Rev. Daniel Parham. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

May 28, 2025 • 54min
Episode #279 - Saving Face with Aimee Byrd
In this episode we’re joined by Aimee Byrd, who is the author of eight books, including the new one that we discuss in this episode, Saving Face: Finding My Self, God, and One Another Outside a Defaced Church (published by Zondervan). Over the course of our conversation we talk about the rich value of faces, the metaphorical nuances to “saving face,” and the ultimate goal of beholding the face of God in the Beatific Vision, among other things. Team members on the episode from The Two Cities include: Dr. John Anthony Dunne, Dr. Grace Sangalang Ng, Rev. Daniel Parham, and Rev. Dr. Chris Porter. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

May 21, 2025 • 1h 8min
Episode #278 - The Anti-Greed Gospel with Rev. Dr. Malcolm Foley
In this episode we’re joined by Rev. Dr. Malcolm Foley, Pastor at Mosaic Waco, Special Advisor to the President for Equity and Campus Engagement at Baylor University, and the author of The Anti-Greed Gospel: Why the Love of Money Is the Root of Racism and How the Church Can Create a New Way Forward (published by Baker). Over the course of our conversation we talk about how Jesus is calling Christians not simply to be generous, which can lead to paternalism, but more specifically anti-greedy, actively rooting out sites in our lives where greed can grow and take over. We discuss several biblical passages about wealth and riches on the one hand and the value of sharing on the other. Team Members on the episode from The Two Cities include: Rev. Dr. Nathaniel Adishian, Dr. John Anthony Dunne, and Rev. Daniel Parham. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

May 14, 2025 • 48min
Episode #277 - Boy Jesus with Professor Joan Taylor
In this episode we’re joined by Professor Joan Taylor, who is Professor of Christian Origins and Second Temple Judaism at King’s College, London, and the author of Boy Jesus: Growing Up Judean in Turbulent Times (Zondervan Academic). Over the course of our conversation we talk about what our sources are for accessing Jesus’s childhood, what we think we can know about it, how his family life and the political situation of Judea at the time would have shaped him into the person he became, and why later Christians were so interested in continuing to tell stories about Jesus’s youth. Team members on the episode from The Two Cities include: Dr. John Anthony Dunne, Rev. Daniel Parham, Dr. Madison Pierce, and Dr. Sydney Tooth. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

May 7, 2025 • 1h 15min
Episode #276 - Writing and Rewriting the Gospels with Dr. James Barker
In this episode we’re joined by Dr. James Barker, who is Associate Professor in the Department of History at Western Kentucky University and the author of Writing and Rewriting the Gospels: John and the Synoptics (published by Eerdmans). In this episode we discuss Dr. Barker’s theory of Gospel development, which entails the idea that each of our canonical Gospels were aware of the previously written ones, meaning not only that Luke used Matthew, but moreover that John knew of each of the Synoptic Gospels. We discuss some of the evidence for this, the developmental implications of this insight for Christology, among other things, and much more. Team members on the episode from The Two Cities include: Dr. John Anthony Dunne, Rev. Dr. Chris Porter, and Dr. Kris Song. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Apr 30, 2025 • 1h 3min
Episode #275 - A History of Sex and Christianity with Prof. Diarmaid MacCulloch
Over the course of our conversation, Prof. MacCulloch explains the impetus behind his book as unsettling many “settled facts” about the Christian history of sexuality. We talk about differing views on sex before the Fall, sex in the eschaton, modern approaches to sexuality like purity culture, when weddings began to be held in churches, and some of the terrifying legends about homosexuality perpetuated by Christians. Team members on the episode from The Two Cities include: the Rev. Dr. Nathaniel Adishian and Dr. John Anthony Dunne. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Apr 23, 2025 • 53min
Episode #274 – The Last Temptation of Christ with Dr. David Bennett
In this episode we’re joined by Dr. David Bennett is a post-doctoral research fellow in theology and ethics at the University of Oxford and he’s the author of A War of Loves: The Unexpected Story of a Gay Activist Discovering Jesus (published by Zondervan). In our conversation we review and discuss the portrayal of Jesus’s sexuality and desire for a relationship and a family in The Last Temptation of Christ (1988, directed by Martin Scorsese). Together we overview Dr. Bennett’s work, as well as the film, and bring the two into conversation together. Team members on the episode from The Two Cities include: Dr. John Anthony Dunne. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Apr 16, 2025 • 57min
Episode #273 - The Marriage You Want with Sheila Wray Gregoire
In this episode we’re joined by Sheila Wray Gregoire, who is a speaker, author of several books, and manager of the podcast and website, BareMarriage.com. She’s also the author (along with her husband, Keith) of the book that we’re discussing on this episode: The Marriage You Want: Moving Beyond Stereotypes for a Relationship Built on Scripture, New Data, and Emotional Health (published by Baker). Over the course of our conversation we talk about the importance of data and peer-reviewed information for marriage advice books, which are sorely lacking in the Christian market. Along the way we dispel many myths perpetuated by other speakers and books in this space. Team members on the episode from The Two Cities include: Dr. John Anthony Dunne, Rev. Daniel Parham, and Dr. Logan Williams. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Apr 9, 2025 • 59min
Episode #272 - Paul and Judaism at the End of History with Professor Matthew Novenson
In this episode we’re joined by Professor Matthew Novenson, who is the Helen H. P. Manson Professor of New Testament at Princeton Theological Seminary and the author of Paul and Judaism at the End of History (published by Cambridge University Press). In this conversation we talk about how eschatology and Paul’s belief that he was living at the end of history impacts his theological vision. We discuss a number of pertinent topics to Pauline interpretation and especially where Novenson’s work fits in relation to the Paul within Judaism school as well as the apocalyptic reading of Paul. Team members on the episode from The Two Cities include: Dr. John Anthony Dunne, Dr. Madison Pierce, and Dr. Sydney Tooth. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Apr 2, 2025 • 1h 4min
Episode #271 - Judaism: A Guide for Christians with Professor Tzvi Novick
In this episode we’re joined by Professor Tzvi Novick, who is Abrams Jewish Thought and Culture Professor of Theology at the University of Notre Dame, and the author of the book that we’re discussing in this episode, Judaism: A Guide for Christians (published by Eerdmans). Over the course of our conversation we talk about why Professor Novick wrote this book to correct misconceptions and misrepresentations of Judaism for a Christian audience. Along the way we discuss such topics such as supersessionism, Zionism, and philojudaism. Team members on the episode from The Two Cities include: Dr. John Anthony Dunne and Dr. Logan Williams. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.