

How to Lead When You're Not in Charge with Clay Scroggins & Charles Good | TGLP#227
Today, we are joined by Clay Scroggins.
Clay is the author of the best-selling books How to Lead When You’re Not in Charge, How to Lead in a World of Distraction, and The Aspiring Leader’s Guide to the Future. He holds a degree in Industrial Engineering from Georgia Tech as well as a Master’s degree and Doctorate with an emphasis in Online Church from Dallas Theological Seminary. For almost 20 years, Clay Scroggins served in many pastoral roles at North Point Ministries, a multisite church started in Alpharetta, Georgia led by Andy Stanley. Most recently, Clay served as the lead pastor of Buckhead Church, one of North Point’s largest campuses. Clay is a sought after speaker (that’s what he tells his parents) having worked with organizations ranging from the Dallas Cowboys or the staff at the White House all the way to Taco Bell or the Alabama Association of Tax Assessors. Clay lives in Atlanta, Georgia, with his wife, Jenny, and their five children.
In this episode, we explore the revolutionary concept that leadership and authority aren't a package deal. Clay dismantles the myth that you must wait for a title or position to begin leading, instead revealing how waiting for empowerment actually trains passivity and undermines your potential.
Key topics include:
- Why leadership and authority are not a package deal and how this myth limits potential
- The danger of waiting to be empowered and how it trains passivity in leaders
- Why influence is more powerful than authority in the long run for effective leadership
- The importance of self-leadership as the foundation for influencing others
Learn from Clay Scroggins how to cultivate influence from wherever you sit in an organization.
Clay Scroggins’s website: https://www.clayscroggins.com/
Clay Scroggins’s Books: https://www.amazon.com/stores/author/B01MXJ1O3Y
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Website and live online programs: http://ims-online.com
Blog: https://blog.ims-online.com/
Podcast: https://ims-online.com/podcasts/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/charlesgood/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/charlesgood99
Chapters:
(00:00) Introduction
(01:00) Tool: Understanding Why Leadership and Authority Aren't a Package Deal
(03:30) Tip: The Danger of Waiting to Be Empowered
(05:30) Technique: Cultivating Influence Over Authority for Long-Term Success
(08:40) Tool: Building Stable Leadership Identity Through the Five P's
(14:30) Tip: Understanding Purpose as the Foundation of Effective Leadership
(15:00) Technique: Distinguishing Between Kibosh and Kavash Leadership Styles
(18:00) Tool: The Importance of Self-Leadership Before Leading Others
(20:05) Tip: Monitoring Your Heart and Behavior for Self-Awareness
(23:00) Technique: Supporting Your Leader to Build Moral Authority
(24:33) Conclusion
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