The Treacherous Last Mile of Inflation | Vincent Deluard on France, 2025 U.S. Fiscal Drag, COLA Pain, and the U.S. Healthcare Price Spiral
Dec 15, 2024
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Vincent Deluard, Director of Global Macro at StoneX, shares his insights on the perilous economic landscape leading up to 2025. He discusses how a lower 2024 inflation rate will squeeze government benefits like Social Security through COLA adjustments. Deluard warns of a strong U.S. dollar impacting corporate earnings and predicts potential spending cuts at state and local levels. He also provides a keen analysis of the political turmoil in France and its broader macroeconomic implications.
Deluard emphasizes that a lower cost-of-living adjustment in 2025 could impact U.S. government programs like Social Security significantly.
The podcast discusses the potential recession risks associated with high corporate debt maturity and increased refinancing challenges by 2025.
Concerns about declining state and local government spending are highlighted as potentially detrimental to overall economic growth and consumer confidence.
Deep dives
The Current Economic Landscape
The economy is experiencing a notable shift as inflation decreases and anticipated recession fears prove unfounded. Inflation rates have dropped significantly, providing confidence in consumer spending as we head toward a strong fourth quarter. However, there are concerns regarding the sustainability of this growth, especially as signs indicate potential economic challenges toward the end of the first quarter of 2025. The shift from negative to positive sentiment among investors raises questions about whether this 'no landing' narrative may ultimately lead to an unexpected slowdown.
Imaginary Recession and Labor Market Dynamics
The discussion highlights various factors that have been deemed potential triggers for recession, such as an inverted yield curve and commercial real estate concerns, none of which materialized as predicted. A significant factor that needs consideration is the role of immigration, which has effectively covered labor shortages created during the COVID era, helping to support economic growth. Furthermore, the adjustments to labor statistics and the challenges in accurately measuring unemployment create complexities in understanding the economic context. This nuance illustrates that prior pessimistic forecasts of a recession were premature rather than incorrect.
The Maturity Wall and Future Economic Risks
Concerns about the maturity wall of corporate debt in the coming years are raised, particularly as many companies face refinancing challenges with higher interest rates. The average commercial lease terms will contribute to financial stress as valuations begin to adjust from inflated levels signed during boom years. This situation signals that previously cautious economic outlooks may indeed be on the horizon, with rising interest expenses potentially leading to decreased investment and slower growth. A careful watch is recommended as these factors converge, particularly around 2025-2026.
Government Spending and its Economic Impact
An important pivot point in the economic landscape is the anticipated decline in state and local government spending, which has grown significantly over the past few years. The shift from robust growth to negative spending forecasts can lead to contractions in consumption and investment, further stressing an already delicate economic situation. While some argue that fiscal tightening may ultimately improve productivity, the immediate impact could dampen economic dynamism. Thus, a potential contraction in government spending can significantly affect real GDP growth and consumer confidence moving forward.
Bear Market Predictions and Long-Term Strategies
Anticipating a bear market in early 2025, concerns arise about the potential 20% decline in stock valuations amidst macroeconomic pressures. Investors are advised to adopt a cautious stance, hedging existing gains while also closely monitoring economic indicators and political developments, particularly regarding government actions. Allocating cash reserves and considering protective strategies such as options may be prudent as market conditions evolve. Even as stronger economic growth is noted currently, the prospect of a prolonged slowdown can create uncertainty, necessitating a balanced approach to investment.
Vincent Deluard, director of global macro for StoneX, joins Monetary Matters to share why he thinks there is a perfect storm of macro headwinds that in April to May of 2025 may put a halt to the relentless rise in U.S. stocks.
Deluard argues that the lower inflation of 2024 will result in a lower cost-of-living-adjustment (COLA) adjustment for 2025 U.S. government programs such as Social Security. He thinks a strong U.S. dollar could dent corporate profits and that state and local governments plan to actually shrink expenditures in 2025.
Deluard, a Frenchman, shares his detailed view on political chaos in France and its macroeconomic consequences. Recorded on December 11, 2024.