

Ep 46 — Turning a Dead NFT Collection into a $50M Empire ft. Luca Netz
In this episode, Luca Netz shares how he took a failing NFT collection and turned it into one of the fastest-growing Web3 brands. We dive into his three-pillar model of ecosystem, attention, and revenue; and explore how Pudgy has sold over 1.5M toys through Walmart and Target, signed 45+ licensing deals, and built a business where culture and cash flow compound.In the episode, talk about:
• How 80% of Pudgy’s revenue comes from licensing (45+ active deals)
• Why arcade machines, toys, and games beat token drops in driving brand value
• What “tokenized culture” actually means—and how it becomes a moat
• The future of consumer crypto and Luca’s bet on Abstract’s Portal
• Why the next big crypto success might not feel like crypto at all
• How to fix crypto’s broken consumer journey
• How to turn IP into retail + social currency without losing the core community.
Chapters
0:00 – Intro
2:45 – Tokenising Culture, Memes & Influence
10:48 - The role of speculation
15:30 – The Three Pillars of Crypto Value: Ecosystem, Attention & Revenue
21:55 – The Pudgy Playbook: Community, Marketing & $50M Revenue
27:56 – What Luca knew when he bid $2.5 million on Pudgy IP
30:45 – What's Broken in Consumer Crypto
38:20 – Fixing Onboarding: Abstract Portal & The Future of Adoption
49:43 – Building for Gen Z & Gen Alpha
51:10 – Lessons from $PENGU Airdrop
54:09 – Is Token a Product?
If you want to know more about Luca, we recently published a story on him here — https://www.thetokendispatch.com/p/the-luca-netz-story
👥 Guest: Luca Netz – CEO at Pudgy Penguins and Igloo
Twitter: https://x.com/LucaNetz 🎙️
Host: Saurabh Deshpande – DCo Podcast
Twitter: https://x.com/desh_saurabh
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