Today Virginia is chatting with Jo Piazza, best selling author, journalist, and podcast creator. You might know her from her awesome podcast Under the Influence, or her very excellent Substack Over the Influence. And her new book, co-authored with Christine Pride entitled You Were Always Mine, just came out this month.

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Disclaimer: Virginia is a journalist and human with a lot of informed opinions. Virginia is not a nutritionist, therapist, doctor, or any kind of health care provider. The conversation you're about to hear and all of the advice and opinions she gives are just for entertainment, information, and education purposes only. None of this is a substitute for individual medical or mental health advice.

BUTTER & OTHER LINKS

@jopiazzaauthor

Jo's other books:

We Are Not Like Them

Fitness Junkie

Other book recs:

Jasmine Guillory’s books

Rosaline Palmer Takes the Cake

Big Girl by Mecca Jamilah Sullivan

Get a Life, Chloe Brown by Talia Hibbert

Our Little Kitchen by Jillian Tamaki

Starfish by Lisa Fipps

Bodies Are Cool and Dancing at the Pity Party by Tyler Feder

Misc & Butter

what do I do with my best friend who’s dieting and I’m sick of hearing about it?

Navigating Chick-fil-A

“Those who don’t cook don’t get to complain.” 

the video for Waterloo

 Weed Family Orchards

The Whispers by Ashley Audrain

ice cream bowls from East Fork

style section cover story about East Fork

The Mugs

the bitty bowls 

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CREDITS

The Burnt Toast Podcast is produced and hosted by Virginia Sole-Smith. Follow Virginia on Instagram or Twitter.Burnt Toast transcripts and essays are edited and formatted by Corinne Fay, who runs @SellTradePlus, an Instagram account where you can buy and sell plus size clothing.The Burnt Toast logo is by Deanna Lowe.Our theme music is by Jeff Bailey and Chris Maxwell.Tommy Harron is our audio engineer.Thanks for listening and for supporting anti-diet, body liberation journalism. 

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