Getting Better with Jonathan Van Ness How to Overcome Burnout and Find Joy at Work
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Aug 13, 2025 
Bree Groff, a workplace transformation expert and consultant for major companies, joins Jonathan for an enlightening discussion on overcoming burnout. They tackle the disconnect caused by rigid professionalism and how fostering authenticity can enhance workplace happiness. Bree shares seven essential rules for joy at work and the importance of setting boundaries. Humor shines through as they recount personal stories, including a hilarious colonoscopy tale. The conversation highlights the need for fun, connection, and self-care in creating a fulfilling work environment.
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Culture Work That Created 'A Second Child'
- Bree describes a consulting project that reduced overwhelm enough for an employee to say they could have a second child.
- She used this to illustrate how culture change restores life outside work.
Professionalism Hides Workplace Humanity
- Professionalism often hides humanity and forces conformity at work.
- That separation makes employees miserable and disconnects them from joyful work.
Make Most Days More Enjoyable
- Make most workdays enjoyable without expecting every day to be fun.
- Use Bree Groff's seven rules (e.g., protect life outside work, do brilliant work, keep it cool) as practical guardrails.
