When Dustin first met Natalie Gregorian, he was drowning in post-it notes, mental overload, and a seven-figure business running purely on chaos. In this episode, he sits down with the Fractional COO and ClickUp power user who quite literally changed his life. Natalie has helped over 60+ entrepreneurs unbottleneck their businesses, reclaim their time, and finally step into the role of true CEO. She shares how most founders are unknowingly sabotaging their own success, why scaling without systems is a trap, and the exact mindset shifts that unlock growth without burnout. If your business is running you (instead of the other way around), this conversation is your wake-up call.

Chapters:

• 00:00:00 – The One Thing That Will Save Your Sanity
• 00:00:51 – Meet the Guest Who Changed Everything
• 00:01:43 – The Unexpected Path to Operations Genius
• 00:03:55 – From Event Chaos to Mastering Business Flow
• 00:10:06 – Why Fast-Growing Businesses Secretly Struggle
• 00:13:14 – The Warning Signs of Burnout No One Talks About
• 00:16:27 – A Single Decision That Transformed Everything
• 00:22:53 – The Hiring Shortcut That Saved Months of Time
• 00:28:06 – The ClickUp Revelation That Changed My Business
• 00:34:20 – Start Here: The First Step to Real Freedom
• 00:37:18 – A Final Challenge Before You Scale

Links and Resources:

• Natalie on LinkedIn
• Tip Top Ops
• Dustin on LinkedIn
• 7 Figure Leap

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