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In this episode of Don't Kill the Messenger, host Kevin Goetz interviews Scott Ross, a pioneering figure in the visual effects industry. As the former general manager of Industrial Light and Magic (ILM), Senior VP of LucasArts Entertainment, and co-founder of Digital Domain with James Cameron and Stan Winston, Scott Ross shares insights into the evolution of visual effects, from practical models to the digital revolution. His impressive portfolio includes iconic films like Star Wars, Terminator 2, Titanic, Apollo 13, and What Dreams May Come, and in this conversation, Ross reflects on working with some of Hollywood's greatest directors and creative minds.

Early Career and Entry into Visual Effects (01:59)
Ross talks about his unexpected journey from studying film at Hofstra University to running ILM.

The Evolution of Visual Effects (04:26)
Ross offers a historical perspective on the development of visual effects, from early innovations like The Great Train Robbery and Trip to the Moon, through the stop-motion animation of King Kong, to the groundbreaking digital effects of the 1980s.

Working at Industrial Light and Magic (09:19)
Ross recounts his experience running ILM, explaining how he rose through the ranks despite having limited direct experience with the optical and chemical processes used before the digital era.

Seminal Projects: Who Framed Roger Rabbit (15:04)
Ross shares insights on his groundbreaking work on Who Framed Roger Rabbit.

Collaborating with George Lucas and James Cameron (17:57)
Ross offers candid reflections on working with George Lucas and his partnership with James Cameron in founding Digital Domain.

Visual Effects Economics and Challenges (25:54)
Ross explains why visual effects are so expensive, mainly due to the enormous personnel requirements.

The Impact of AI on Visual Effects (30:36)
Ross offers a balanced view of artificial intelligence as both "an incredibly wonderful technology" and a potentially frightening force that could eliminate jobs.

Reflections on Iconic Films (39:09)
In a rapid-fire segment, Ross shares memories of working on films like Apollo 13, Titanic, Terminator 2, and What Dreams May Come.

Throughout the conversation, Ross shares his perspective as a business leader who navigated the transition from creating practical to digital effects, offering both historical context and insights about the future of filmmaking as the technology continues to evolve.

We look forward to bringing you more revelations from behind the scenes next time on Don't Kill the Messenger! Please leave us a review or connect on social media.

Host: Kevin Goetz

Guest: Scott Ross

Producer: Kari Campano

Writers: Kevin Goetz, Darlene Hayman, and Kari Campano

Audio Engineer: Gary Forbes (DG Entertainment)

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