Stoa Conversations: Stoicism Applied

When Being Good at Your Job Makes You a Bad Person (Episode 193)

Jul 22, 2025
What happens when professional excellence clashes with personal virtue? Dive into the complexities of ethical decision-making, exploring modern dilemmas faced by activists, CEOs, and lawyers. The discussion reveals how roles can challenge our moral compass and examines Machiavelli's views on power versus ethics. Solutions include prioritizing roles and breaking virtue into manageable parts. Ultimately, it provokes thought on maintaining integrity while navigating societal expectations and the harsh realities of various occupations.
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ANECDOTE

Machiavelli's Political Leadership

  • Machiavelli argued that political leadership may require cruelty and deception.
  • He believed these acts can secure longer-term benefits for subjects, challenging classical virtue ethics.
INSIGHT

Role Excellence vs Virtue

  • Some roles require traits seemingly opposed to virtue like cruelty or aggression.
  • Being the best in a role like prince or CEO might mean forsaking traditional virtue for effectiveness.
ANECDOTE

Modern Role Conflicts Examples

  • Activists may use propaganda and scapegoats for just causes, conflicting with traditional justice.
  • Bosses, journalists, and others face role conflicts between job demands and moral virtues.
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