563: Dr. Mike Massimino - A NASA Astronaut's Guide To Achieving The Impossible, Building Excellent Teams, Tweeting From Space, and Earning Your Dream Job
Jan 15, 2024
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Dr. Mike Massimino, NASA Astronaut, shares his journey to becoming an astronaut, including overcoming rejections and a medical disqualification. He discusses the power of passion, the impact of seeing Earth from space, and the challenges of sending the first tweet from space. Mike emphasizes the importance of trust, teamwork, and preparation in achieving mission success. He also reflects on fear, sacrifice, commitment, and the qualities of astronauts.
Trust and teamwork are essential for success in any endeavor.
Imposter syndrome is common, and humility is important in recognizing our worth.
Space exploration has a transformative impact, instilling gratitude and wonder.
Deep dives
Importance of Trust and Teamwork
One of the main ideas discussed in the podcast is the importance of trust and teamwork. Mike Massamino shares that in the space program, everyone's success depends on the entire team. He highlights the need for leaders to trust their team members and create an environment where everyone feels supported. Additionally, individuals should be willing to admit when they need help and ask for assistance for the sake of the team. This lesson of trust and teamwork applies not only to the space program but also to our everyday lives and work environments.
Overcoming Imposter Syndrome
Another key point discussed in the podcast is the concept of imposter syndrome. Mike Massamino shares that many people, including himself, experience imposter syndrome, feeling unworthy or questioning their qualifications. He emphasizes the importance of humility and recognizing that being selected for a role or opportunity is often due to fortune and hard work, rather than being the result of being the best or most qualified. He encourages individuals to trust in their training, skills, and team, and to focus on doing their best to fulfill their role.
The Wonder of Spacewalking
The podcast delves into the awe-inspiring experience of spacewalking. Mike Massamino shares his personal experience and the emotions he felt during his spacewalks. He describes the intense training required to prepare for spacewalks and the surreal feeling of being outside the spacecraft, interacting with the environment of space. He mentions the breathtaking view of Earth from space and the profound impact it had on him, creating a sense of gratitude and wonder. This highlights the transformative nature of space exploration and the profound impact it can have on an individual's perspective.
The importance of seizing opportunities
Mike Massamino shares how seizing opportunities, even ones that seem small or insignificant, can lead to unexpected opportunities and experiences. He recounts how a simple storytelling opportunity led to the NASA administrator noticing him, which opened doors for speaking engagements, media appearances, and even being the first astronaut to send a tweet from space. Massamino emphasizes the importance of doing your best with every opportunity, as you never know who may notice and what opportunities may arise.
Humility and gratitude in the astronaut community
Massamino reflects on the humility and gratitude he witnessed among astronauts. Contrary to the portrayal of astronauts as arrogant or egotistic in movies and fictional accounts, Massamino found them to be down-to-earth, helpful, and humble individuals. He highlights the importance of humility in achieving success and working collaboratively. Massamino also discusses the gratitude that comes from seeing Earth from space, emphasizing the fragility and beauty of our planet. He shares how this perspective fosters a sense of gratitude and a desire to protect and preserve our home.
This is episode #563 of The Learning Leader Show. My guest is Dr. Mike Massimino.
The 3 Trusts - Trust your gear, trust your training, trust your team… And the 4th: trust yourself.
Mike persisted through 3 rejections over 7 years on his way to becoming an astronaut, including overcoming a medical disqualification by training his eyes and brain to see better.
Mike participated in a mission that significantly increased Hubble’s discovery potential and led to the award of a Nobel Prize in physics for the discovery of dark energy during a spacewalk.
Why Mike was chosen to be an astronaut: Mike has a great combination of competence (he knows his stuff) and high character. He’s the type of guy that can get along and work with anyone. He’s honest, humble, and authentic.
The power of having a deep passion for what you’re doing. Mike watched Neil Armstrong walk on the moon when he was six years old and then did whatever he could over the rest of his life to become an astronaut. His desire to become an astronaut led him to go to prestigious universities, earn his Ph.D., become a pilot, become scuba certified, develop great communication skills, and so much more. All of that work led to him accomplishing what he set out to do when he was just 6 years old.
“I knew right then that I wanted to be a part of something that meaningful. I wanted to have something I was so passionate about that I'd be willing to risk everything for it. I wanted to know that if I ever got killed, I got killed doing something worthwhile. The kid who looked up at the moon and wasn't afraid to dream - I decided that part of me deserved a chance. I sat there in that reception area, watching the crash footage play over and over again on the television, and that was when it hit home for me: you only have one life. You have to spend it doing something that matters.”
What Mike learned from Alan Bean: The most important lesson is to care for and admire everyone on your team.
“My favorite lecturer was Alan Bean, who flew on Apollo 12 and is one of the twelve guys who walked on the moon. After retiring from NASA, he became a painter. Alan's lecture was called "The Art of Space Exploration." He talked about the mistakes he'd made and how he learned to fix them. One lesson that took him a while to learn was that at a place like NASA you can only have an effect on certain things. You can't control who likes you. You can't control who gets assigned to flights or what NASA's budget is going to be next year. If you get caught up worrying about things you can't control, you'll drive yourself nuts. It's better to focus on the things right in front of you. Identify the places where you can have a positive impact. Concentrate there and let the rest take care of itself. The last thing Alan said to us was 'What most people want in life is to do something great. That doesn't happen often. Don't take it for granted. Don't be blasé about it. And don't blow it. A lot of times, believe it or not, people blow it.
“Kennedy’s address announcing the Apollo program was one of the great presidential speeches of all time. He challenged us. He excited us. We reach for impossible things, he said, “not because they are easy, but because they are hard.”
Competence + Character = Trust.
The Right Stuff - The Original 7 Astronauts.
If you have a bad boss, what should you do:
Stay the course
Lead by example
“Life is funny. I'd applied to the wrong graduate program, but that eventually led me to the right grad program. I'd taken what I thought was the wrong undergraduate major, and that was the thing that set me apart and allowed me to find my niche. I don't know if there are any lessons to take from that except to realize that the things you think are mistakes may turn out not to be mistakes. I realized wherever you are, if you make the most of what you've got, you can find a way to keep moving forward.”
“If you can learn to live with indignities in life, you can go far.”
“That's how a team works. You help the people around you, and everybody's better off for it. The crazy thing is that most of those guys wanted to be astronauts, too, but they never saw it as a competition. We were on the same team, where you want everyone around you to be as successful as possible, because in some way or another their success will become your success. It's good karma - what goes around comes around.”
“Right after we launched, I realized that all the training we'd on what to do if something went wrong during launch-how to bail out , how to operate the parachutes, how to make an emergency landing-I realized that all those years of training were completely pointless. It was just filler to make us feel okay about climbing into this thing. Because if it's going down, it's going down. It's either going to be a good day or it's going to be a bad day, and there is no in-between.”
“The camaraderie that firefighters have, that brotherhood that forms among them - my father was a part of that, and it came from having a shared sense of purpose. He told me that whatever you do in life, it can't just be about making money. It's important that you work to make the world a better place, that you help improve the lives of the people around you.”
Perspective: Mike shares how looking down on Earth from space changed his perspective and filled him with deep gratitude.
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