Heather Havrilesky, author of Foreverland and writer of the advice columns Ask Polly and Ask Molly, dives into the messy parts of self-identity. She discusses how embracing contradictions can lead to a happier life. The conversation touches on the tumultuous twenties, the art of writing authentically, and the necessity of humor in overcoming life's absurdities. Heather also reflects on societal pressures and the importance of presenting a genuine self in a fragmented world.
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The Chaos of Your 20s
Heather loves responding to people in their 20s and early 30s because it's a difficult, chaotic period.
She advises not to take this time too seriously as you have many chances to start over and make mistakes.
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Embrace Your Messy Self
Heather's experience shows being your whole self means embracing contradictions and messiness.
Through many phases, failures, and reinventions, she learned humility is at the heart of authentic living.
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Use Humor to Heal
Use humor and self-mockery to ease suffering and embrace your flaws.
Heather’s advice writing thrives on her ability to insult herself and go off on tangents.
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Foreverland
Heather Havrilesky
In 'Foreverland', Heather Havrilesky offers a refreshingly honest portrayal of marriage, detailing its delights, aggravations, and sublime calamities over fifteen years. The book navigates the complexities of love, from the initial romance to the challenges of maintaining it, revealing that relationships are neither simply 'happy' nor 'unhappy' but a complex mix of emotions. With stories of fumbled proposals, suburban migrations, and the trials of aging, Havrilesky provides a poignant and funny examination of modern marriage.
Heather Havrilesky is the author of the book Foreverland: On the Divine Tedium of Marriage. She’s also the writer behind the advice columns “Ask Polly,” and “Ask Molly,” which is written by Polly’s mischievous alterego. In this episode, Heather and Chris navigate how to showcase your whole self – even if it means embracing the messy parts – and how leaning into contradictions can make you happier and healthier. They also discuss how most people’s twenties are a disaster, how to write in a way that feels true, and why it’s necessary to laugh at your own ridiculousness.
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