

Top Defense Leaders on How Ukraine Can Win
19 snips Oct 2, 2025
Hanno Pevkur, Estonia's Minister of Defense, discusses the ongoing Russian provocations aimed at dividing NATO and the importance of Western unity in support of Ukraine. Retired Lt. Gen. Ben Hodges provides operational insights on Ukraine's military needs and the strategic failures of Russia. Both guests emphasize the significance of NATO's coherence and share thoughts on addressing European defense funding and the necessary military assistance for Ukraine's success. Their insights reveal critical dynamics shaping Europe's security landscape in light of ongoing conflicts.
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Russia Probes Western Resolve
- Russia uses layered hybrid tactics from cyberattacks to physical incursions to probe and destabilize Western resolve.
- Hanno Pevkur says these actions test NATO thresholds and aim to force political divisions and reduce support for Ukraine.
Respond Firmly But Calmly
- Scramble interceptors when incursions near national borders to assert sovereignty but avoid reckless escalation.
- Pevkur stresses measured responses preserve credibility while preventing Russia from provoking overreactions.
Invest In Eastern Flank Defenses
- Invest in regional counter-drone and UAS defenses and coordinate eastern flank watch capabilities through EU funds.
- Pevkur recommends using European Commission financing to strengthen practical defense cooperation while leaving planning to NATO.