02:40 - Building and hacking systems

09:35 - The birth of Botto

14:10 - The importance of the DAO

18:30 - The evolution of Botto in the face of new AI development

20:40 - Botto's persona and longevity

25:30 - Styles, themes and periods

27:53 - The economy of Botto, rewards and incentives

37:45 - The genesis of P5.Botto

41:15 - How the p5.Botto system works

47:50 - The final 22 algorithms

56:43 - Long term goals and possible futures

57:48 - The tension and benefits between autonomy and governance

01:00:39 - How much of Botto's personality comes through

01:03:29 - How Mario sees things developing

01:07:10 - The importance of competition

Mario Klingemann on the evolution of Botto