The Burnouts with Phoebe & Sophia Meet The Journalist Every Tech Billionaire is Afraid Of (Ft. Kara Swisher)
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Jul 17, 2025 
Kara Swisher, a renowned tech journalist known for her incisive interviews with Silicon Valley's elite, joins the conversation. She shares her journey from critiquing The Washington Post as a college student to becoming a formidable voice in tech. Kara emphasizes the importance of negotiating for fair pay and owning one's intellectual property in a male-dominated industry. She dives into the bizarre behaviors of tech moguls and the need for journalists to hold them accountable. Expect behind-the-scenes stories and a powerful message about women taking charge in their careers!
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Bold Start: Getting Hired by Criticism
- Kara Swisher got hired by The Washington Post by calling out errors in a reporter's story she disliked.
- She impressed the editor by confidently claiming she could do better, which led to her first paid job.
Negotiate Boldly and Walk Away
- Always ask for more in negotiations and link your pay to your contribution or revenue generated.
- Be willing to walk away if you don’t get fair compensation; believe in your ability to succeed independently.
Wealth Shrinks and Warps Worlds
- Wealth often shrinks the world of tech billionaires, surrounding them with yes-people and enabling negative behaviors.
- Some grow and mature with money like Bill Gates, but many go backwards, becoming more erratic and isolated.
