

The Burnouts with Phoebe & Sophia
Phoebe Gates & Sophia Kianni
As former Stanford roommates and now business partners, Phoebe Gates and Sophia Kianni share their experience as startup founders and the complexities of being young professionals—from financial literacy, social impact, and navigating networking (ever been hit on through LinkedIn?). With exclusive access to top experts, they offer an inside look at their chaotic lives alongside career insights from their network of thought leaders. Watch The Burnouts pursue their dreams while trying to keep their lives from going up in flames. Will they burn out? We’ll find out.
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Oct 2, 2025 • 59min
Rainn Wilson Reveals Why Playing Dwight on The Office Didn’t Make Him Happy
Rainn Wilson, best known as Dwight Schrute from The Office, shares his journey from fame to fulfillment. He reveals how the success of the show didn’t bring him happiness and discusses his battles with burnout. Rainn dives into his transformation through spirituality and mental health practices, highlighting daily routines that ground him. He shares hilarious behind-the-scenes stories from The Office and emphasizes the importance of finding purpose over chasing external milestones. This candid conversation is filled with insights on success, self-acceptance, and meaningful work.

Sep 25, 2025 • 1h 1min
How Bobbi Brown Went From Vogue Makeup Artist to Building a $160M Brand at 63
Bobbi Brown, renowned makeup artist and entrepreneur, shares her inspiring journey from a Vogue makeup artist to building a $160M beauty empire. She reveals the secrets behind launching Bobbi Brown Cosmetics, her emotional connection to makeup, and how she successfully navigated a lengthy non-compete. Bobbi candidly discusses her viral TikTok moment, the importance of a supportive partnership with her husband, and her passion for mentoring young women. Plus, her refreshing take on beauty rules that resonate through generations!

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Sep 18, 2025 • 35min
How Tommy Hilfiger Manifested a $9 Billion Fashion Empire After Going Bankrupt!
Tommy Hilfiger, a fashion designer and entrepreneur, shares his inspiring journey from a young dreamer to building a $9 billion global brand. He opens up about overcoming dyslexia, surviving bankruptcy, and his transformative billboard campaign that catapulted his brand to fame. Hilfiger discusses key collaborations with stars like Beyoncé and Zendaya, the impact of manifestation on his success, and how he views AI shaping fashion's future. He combines raw honesty with invaluable lessons on resilience, family, and creativity.

Sep 11, 2025 • 36min
How a Teen Model Left Sweden & Built a $100M Fashion Empire From Her Garage (ft. Anine Bing)
Anine Bing, a Danish-born model and entrepreneur, transformed her life from selling secondhand clothes to launching a $100M fashion empire from her garage. She shares her early hustle, balancing motherhood while packing orders and navigating naysayers. Anine discusses her viral moments, including collaborations with Kate Moss and the influence of music on her brand. Her mission? To empower women through timeless designs and self-belief. Join her unfiltered journey from Milan to global fashion icon, filled with inspiring lessons on resilience and authenticity.

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Sep 4, 2025 • 34min
Gary Vee: Why You’ll NEVER Be An Influencer (But You Can Still Get RICH!)
Gary Vaynerchuk, aka Gary Vee, is an entrepreneur and bestselling author known for his candid approach to success. In a lively discussion, he explains why most influencers will struggle while emphasizing that patience beats hustle. He shares insights on how his immigrant upbringing fueled his work ethic and why $100K can signify 'making it.' Gary delves into the importance of emotional intelligence in leadership, the rise of live shopping, and how AI can enhance creativity—all while challenging traditional definitions of success.

Aug 28, 2025 • 32min
Pop Star Ava Max on the Real Story Behind “Sweet But Psycho” and Why She Left The Spotlight
In this captivating discussion, global pop icon Ava Max opens up about her remarkable journey from a first-generation immigrant to a chart-topping star. She reveals the challenges of surviving a predatory music industry and nearly quitting music altogether. Ava also shares the emotional toll of touring, losing her voice at a pivotal moment, and the importance of protecting her energy. With insights about her new album 'Don't Click Play,' she emphasizes resilience, the power of originality, and the significance of empowering women in the industry.

Aug 21, 2025 • 54min
Meet the Pre-Med Nerd Who Modeled for Sports Illustrated and Became a $6M Forbes Creator (@haleyybaylee)
Haley Kalil, a multifaceted model, creator, and comedian, shares her remarkable journey—from biomedical science to winning beauty pageants and gracing the covers of Sports Illustrated. She discusses her viral success on YouTube, financial independence after divorce, and the unique pressures successful women face in dating. Haley provides insight into monetizing content and maintaining authenticity as a top creator. Prepare for a candid conversation filled with laughter, personal growth, and lessons for aspiring creators.

Aug 14, 2025 • 38min
Meet the Disney Child Star Who Exposed Hollywood and Took Back Their Power (ft. Alyson Stoner)
Alyson Stoner, a former Disney star and mental health advocate, shares her journey through the pressures of Hollywood. She opens up about battling an eating disorder and the quest for self-discovery. The discussion highlights the toxic environment of child stardom and the false promises of 'exposure.' Alyson reveals powerful tools for mental health management, emphasizing mindfulness and the importance of reclaiming personal agency. She reflects on finding purpose beyond fame and navigating the challenges of social media, while advocating for a healthier approach to success.

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Aug 7, 2025 • 40min
How a Broke Bartender Turned $50 Into a Multi-Million Dollar Brand—The Skinny Confidential
Lauryn Bosstick, founder of The Skinny Confidential and co-host of a popular podcast, shares her inspiring journey from a $50 blog to a thriving beauty empire. She discusses the importance of building a brand without investors, navigating early burnout, and executing ideas rather than overthinking them. Lauryn also reveals her insights on evaluating brand deals, the secret to being a great podcast guest, and a funny parenting tip involving 'cookie water.' Plus, the conversation touches on the value of resourcefulness in the age of AI.

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Jul 31, 2025 • 31min
Why You’ll Never Get Rich From a Paycheck (Ft. $1B Fund Manager)
In this insightful discussion, Morgan Housel, a Partner at Collaborative Fund and author of 'The Psychology of Money,' tackles the misconceptions surrounding wealth and income. He reveals why chasing paychecks won’t lead to real riches and how ownership beats salary. The conversation dives into elderly regrets about money, the evolving American Dream, and the psychological impact of social media on financial anxiety. Housel also highlights how gender influences our approach to risk and ambition, providing a fresh perspective on what it truly means to be 'rich.'