64 | What is Aesthetics? Part II. How Does it Feel to be a Problem, Hip Hop Nation? W/ Dr. Michael Thomas
May 1, 2023
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Dr. Michael Thomas discusses Black aesthetics and hip hop as a 'problem space' challenging societal contradictions. They delve into the complexities of hip-hop storytelling, the concept of signifying in black experience, Nicki Minaj's personal struggles, the shift towards vibe in the music industry, the art of listening and responding in hip hop culture, and the evolution of taste in hip-hop and black aesthetics.
Hip-hop serves as a problem space for exploring intergenerational trauma and challenging cultural tropes.
Engaging with hip-hop develops critical and aesthetic faculties through multiple listens.
Hip-hop functions as a space for contemplation and navigation of societal issues, not solving them outright.
Deep dives
Exploring the Complexity of Black Aesthetics
Black aesthetics involves artists taking black experience seriously and valuing the lives of those racialized as black. It goes beyond a particular theme or topic, functioning as a community discursive practice. Hip-hop, as a form of black aesthetics, offers a problem space for exploring unresolved intergenerational trauma and challenging coherent political and cultural tropes. It resists essentialism and represents a variety of dimensions of the black experience. By engaging with hip-hop, listeners are challenged to actively listen, unpack the language, and navigate the complexity and references embedded in the music. Hip-hop serves as both a personal exploration and a means of understanding societies and identity formation.
The Practice of Listening to Hip-Hop
Listening to hip-hop is an active practice that goes beyond surface-level engagement. It requires multiple listens to grasp the artistic and aesthetic quality of the music. The flows and lyrics provide a deeper understanding and connection to the experiences being expressed. Hip-hop allows for the exploration of different personas, playing with identification, and the ability to transport oneself into various characters and themes. It offers a space for personal exploration and the examination of societal issues. Engaging with hip-hop on its own terms enables listeners to develop their critical and aesthetic faculties.
Hip-Hop as a Problem Space
Hip-hop functions as a problem space rather than attempting to solve societal problems outright. It explores tensions and complexities rooted in history, economics, and cultural life. Hip-hop's role is to work through these problems aesthetically, offering a space for contemplation and navigation. While the problems expressed in hip-hop may not find resolution within the art form itself, engaging with hip-hop can lead to a deeper understanding of the context and experiences that give rise to those problems. It challenges listeners to think critically, act upon the insights gained from the music, and grapple with the societal issues presented.
Hip-hop as a Form of Play and Transformation
Hip-hop allows artists to inhabit different personalities, transforming themselves and engaging the audience. The form of hip-hop lends itself to play and experimentation, borrowing references and invoking personas. This ability to play and transform is fundamental to the art, similar to the way martial artists develop their characters. The specificity of flow and the use of systems like freestyling create an interesting dynamic in hip-hop.
Listening to Hip-hop as a Form of Reconstruction
Listening to hip-hop requires active engagement and a conscious effort to understand the references and cultural connections. The ethics of listening in hip-hop involves tracing the structure of the art and delving into the reality it represents. Rather than a redemptive reading, it is important to approach hip-hop as a form of reconstruction, where the art challenges and reconstructs our notions of self and society. This deep listening cultivates a consciousness of the artist's perspective and allows for a better understanding of black experiences in the United States.
In this episode, we are joined by Michael Thomas to talk about Black aesthetics and hip hop in particular. We work through what it means for hip hop to be a 'problem space' that reconstructs the cultural contradictions and political messaging of a racist society in a way that is not essentializing and that aspires to address social problems without producing easy answers. Main themes include hip hop's form, vibe, and story-telling capacity across generations.
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References:
Michael Thomas, "Singing Experience in Section.80", in Kendrick Lamar and the Making of Black Meaning, eds. Christopher M. Driscoll, Monica R. Miller, and Anthony B. Pinn (New York: Routledge, 2019)
Paul C. Taylor, "Black Reconstruction in Aesthetics", Debates in Aesthetics 15.2 (2020): 9-47
Lissa Skitolsky, Hip-Hop as Philosophical Text and Testimony: Can I Get a Witness? (Lanham: Lexington Books, 2020)
The five of us put together a playlist for this episode! Big K.R.I.T. feat. Devin The Dude, Curren$y, and Killa Kyleon, “Moon & Stars” Gary Clark Jr., “This Land” GZA feat. Method Man, “Shadowboxin’” Kanye West, “Blood on the Leaves” Little Simz, “Venom” Lupe Fiasco, “WAV Files” Makaveli, “To Live And Die in L.A.” Mobb Deep, “Shook Ones, Pt. II” Nas, “N.Y. State of Mind” Nicki Minaj, “All Things Go” Nicki Minaj, “Here I Am” Saba feat. Day Wave, “2012” Vince Staples, “Like It Is” Young Money, “Lookin Ass”
Music: Vintage Memories by Schematist | schematist.bandcamp.com
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