The Dynamic Leader Podcast Episode #176. Interview with Ashley Fell on a decade of reflection with McCrindle
In this episode, Shelley engages in a profound conversation with Ashley Fell, a distinguished social researcher, author, TED X speaker and Director of Advisory at the globally recognised McCrindle. Celebrating her decade-long journey with McCrindle, Ashley reflects on the ebbs and flows, or 'tensions,' that have shaped her experiences within the organisation.
With a focus on the evolution of her role, Ashley shares insights into the intricacies of navigating the dynamic landscape of a research-focused career. Emphasising the concept of tension, Ashley shares valuable perspectives on communication, advocating for a balanced approach by recognising that life unfolds in the midst of tensions—where nothing is purely good or bad, and many situations are not either/or but rather both/and.
This episode unfolds as a rich exploration of a decade of reflection, offering listeners a unique glimpse into Ashley's journey and the wisdom she has gained along the way.
As a bonus...here are Ashley's 10 reflections after 10 years:
1. Life is lived in the tension: Nothing is all good or all bad, a lot of things are not either/or, but rather both/and. Recognising that every situation has benefits and challenges is helpful to remember.
2. Say yes to opportunities that scare you: It’s okay to feel scared and like an imposter when taking on something new, but know those feelings can be overcome and don’t let them stop you. We grow the most when we are out of our comfort zone and we rarely ever feel ready, so say yes and learn along the way.
3. Great colleagues are invaluable: We spend a third of our day at work, so getting along with colleagues is not only helpful for your work but for your wellbeing and sense of community. And if you’re lucky, can also lead to great friendships.
4. People underestimating you can be a blessing in disguise: It might seem counter intuitive, but low expectations can actually play to your favour, allowing you to prove people wrong and exceed their expectations.
5. Words of encouragement should not be undervalued: A kind word to someone has the power to put a smile on their face, brighten their day and have greater impacts on them than you might ever realise.
6. Progress, not perfection: Perfection is a myth that stops us from getting things done. Your first attempt at something is rarely good. And that’s totally fine. It gives you something to build off of. Don’t let imperfection stop you from trying at all.
7. Regular rest is essential: Big holidays are amazing and you should definitely take them, but regular rhythms of rest (daily, weekly) are vital to a sustainable career.
8. Reading is a secret power: Non-fiction can teach us so much and so can fiction as it allows us to grow in empathy. I’m also a firm believer that reading makes you a better communicator.
9. Learning takes place through osmosis: Formal learning opportunities are awesome, but don’t forget about the passive learning that takes place by being around others. Although it often takes place without you knowing it, putting yourself in the orbit of people you respect is a great way to learn.
10. Don’t forget to laugh along the way: Humour connects us. I’ve found the moments of laughter are the ones that I remember. Humour is worth pursuing - in presentations, the workplace and in relationships. Having fun along the way is important.
She thanks all those who have had an impact on her and her career so far. Especially Mark McCrindle who has modelled empowering and enlarging leadership so well. 🙏
Connect with Ashley: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashleyfell1/
McCrindle website: https://mccrindle.com.au/
The Future Report Podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/thefuturereport
Connect with Shelley: https://www.linkedin.com/in/shelleyflett/
Work with Shelley: https://shelleyflett.com