Jake Chervinsky, Chief Legal Officer at Variant and former head of policy at the Blockchain Association, dives into the turbulent waters of crypto regulation. He discusses key legal cases like Tornado Cash and how they may set precedents for open-source software developers. Chervinsky argues the government often misinterprets liability, raising concerns about the impact on DeFi. He also analyzes the SEC's inquiries into Ethereum and Coinbase, all while maintaining an optimistic outlook for the future of digital assets in the U.S.
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Tornado Cash Case Precedent
The government's case against Tornado Cash developers hinges on the premise that software developers are liable for third-party misuse.
This sets a dangerous precedent for open-source software development, as developers could be held responsible for unforeseen illicit uses.
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Government's Misrepresentation of Tornado Cash
The government's indictment misrepresents Tornado Cash's functionality by conflating the immutable smart contract protocol with other ecosystem components.
This misrepresentation aims to establish the developers' intent for illicit use, a key element for conspiracy charges.
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Ramifications of Tornado Cash Ruling
The government's approach in the Tornado Cash case threatens the open-source software movement.
Holding developers liable for unforeseen misuse could stifle innovation and have far-reaching consequences beyond crypto.
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Jake Chervinsky, chief legal officer of Variant, discusses the current state of crypto regulation, touching on several ongoing legal and regulatory issues in the crypto space, including Uniswap’s Wells notice, the Coinbase case, the Tornado Cash case, the Ethereum Foundation investigation and more. Chervinsky argues that the government's approach to these cases is often misguided, particularly in instances where they hold software developers liable for how third parties use their software. He also discusses the potential implications of the government's case against Tornado Cash, suggesting that it could have far-reaching consequences for all open-source software developers.
Chervinsky also delves into the SEC's ongoing investigations into the Ethereum Foundation, as well as the recent IRS draft form that lists unhosted wallets as a type of broker. He expressed concern about the potential impact of these investigations on the crypto industry, but remained optimistic about the future of DeFi in the US.
Show highlights:
How the Tornado Cash case could set a critical precedent for open-source software
How the government’s Tornado indictment reveals a fear of unsurveilled financial systems, according to Jake
What the implications of the Tornado Cash case could be for the broader DeFi space
What lessons can be learned from the $62 million hack of Munchables on Blast
How to address the challenge of malicious actors like North Korea using a permissionless system
Whether Coinbase's staking services are considered a securities offering
Whether Judge Failla’s ruling on Coinbase acting as a broker could be overturned
Why Jake thinks the SEC will face significant challenges in its potential case against Uniswap Labs
How the Debt Box case order impacts the SEC’s reputation, according to Jake
How the industry is pushing back against the SEC’s regulation by enforcement with its own lawsuits for Lejilex and Beba
The future of DeFi in the U.S. and its potential for success, according to Jake
Why Jake believes the SEC will deny Ether ETFs and why he disagrees with the latest stablecoin regulation bill by Lummis and Gillibrand
How the U.S. Presidential election could impact the future of the crypto industry