Guest host Sigal Samuel talks with philosopher and author Martha Nussbaum about her new book, Justice for Animals. Martha discusses several different ethical, legal, and metaphysical theories for how we humans should treat other non-human animals, and offers her own distinct new approach.

Host: Sigal Samuel (@SigalSamuel), Senior Reporter, Vox

Guest: Martha Nussbaum, author; Ernst Freund Distinguished Service Professor of Philosophy, U. Chicago

References: 

• Justice for Animals: Our Collective Responsibility by Martha Nussbaum (Simon & Schuster; 2022)
• Drawing the Line: Science and the Case for Animal Rights by Steven M. Wise (Basic; 2003)
• Primates and Philosophers: How Morality Evolved by Frans de Waal (Princeton; 2006)
• Animal Liberation: A New Ethics for Our Treatment of Animals by Peter Singer (1975)
• Fellow Creatures: Our Obligations to Other Animals by Christine Korsgaard (Oxford; 2018)
• Political Liberalism by John Rawls (1993)
• The Universal Declaration of Human Rights (1948)
• "Ag-Gag" Laws in the United States (Animal Legal Defense Fund)
• Zoopolis: A Political Theory of Animal Rights by Sue Donaldson and Will Kymlicka (Oxford; 2011)

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This episode was made by: 

• Producer: Erikk Geannikis
• Editor: Amy Drozdowska
• Engineer: Patrick Boyd
• Editorial Director, Vox Talk: A.M. Hall

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