The Tim Ferriss Show

#396: Marcela Ot’alora — How to Become a Psychedelic Therapist

Nov 22, 2019
Marcela Ot’alora, a psychotherapist and installation artist, dives into the transformative world of psychedelic therapy. She shares her experiences with MDMA-assisted psychotherapy, emphasizing its potential in trauma healing. From her whimsical childhood aspirations to her serious work with MAPS, Marcela highlights the importance of self-awareness and supportive therapeutic environments. Listeners learn about the pathways to becoming a psychedelic therapist and the critical role of community engagement in this evolving practice.
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Childhood Dream

  • Marcela Ot’alora wanted to be a firetruck as a child, loving their power and accessories.
  • A patient at her mother's hospital, nicknamed "Little Match", affirmed her dream.
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First MDMA Experience

  • At 20, after homelessness and abuse, Ot’alora tried MDMA recreationally.
  • The experience, in an unsafe setting, was traumatic and landed her in the hospital.
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Transformative MDMA Session

  • Following a traumatic first experience, Ot’alora did MDMA with Rick Doblin.
  • In a safe setting, she felt seen, acknowledged, and like she had rights for the first time.
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