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AI-Powered Filmmaking with Waymark's Stephen Parker and Josh Rubin

Sep 14, 2023

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Josh Rubin

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Stephen Parker

In this conversation, Stephen Parker and Josh Rubin, creative leads at Waymark, delve into the fascinating world of AI-powered filmmaking. They discuss the innovative techniques behind their short film, The Frost, revealing how DALL-E 2 transformed storytelling. The duo shares effective strategies for prompting AI image generation and the challenges of achieving character consistency. They also explore the emotional nuances of animating characters and the future implications of AI in the film industry, emphasizing the delicate balance between technology and traditional creativity.

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ANECDOTE

The Frost's Genesis

Josh Rubin saw potential in Stephen Parker's initial "Frost" image series.
It depicted faces, mountains, and gear, suggesting a world needing a story.

ADVICE

Prompting for Consistent Imagery

Imagine how images would be captioned in a real-world context (e.g., museum catalog).
Structure prompts with image type, project name, subject, and director/cinematographer.

ADVICE

Creating Cinematic Continuity

Use consistent settings (like snowy mountains) to make transitions believable.
Apply filmmaking knowledge to create specific shots (wide, reverse, close-up) for cinematic flow.

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In this episode, Nathan sits down with Stephen Parker and Josh Rubin of Waymark, and creators of The Frost, an AI-powered 12 minute short film. In this episode, we get a behind the scenes look at their creative process, the prompting and creative techniques they used to generate and animate the DALL-E results, and an overview of the current state of AI art. If you're looking for an ERP platform, check out our sponsor, NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/cognitive

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(00:00) Episode Preview

(00:01:00) Nathan’s introduction for Stephen Parker and Josh Rubin

(00:05:01) - The Frost is a 12-minute short film created using DALL-E 2 images.

(00:07:06) - The Frost started as an experiment to see if a narrative film could be created completely from AI imagery.

(00:10:38) - Parker started generating images with DALL-E 2 when he got access to the early preview.

(00:12:26) - Prompt technique to get consistent images by providing context about a hypothetical film.

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(00:19:37) - Compositional continuity, like shot-reverse shot, was hard to achieve through prompting.

(00:22:13)- Rubin would request specific shots and the team would prompt DALL-E 2 to create them

(00:32:25) - Getting consistent facial features for characters was very difficult.

(00:39:03) - The storytelling helped cover inconsistencies that viewers might not notice.

(00:40:15) - Working with the images DALL-E provides

(00:44:53) Inpainting and compositing to refine DALL-E Images

(00:50:43) - The AI art is limited by what exists in the training data.

(01:02:05)- Animating the human characters was challenging because of missing or incorrect appendages.

(01:07:36) - The team had to find creative ways to convey emotion through the limited animation.

01:02:24 - Animating subtle human movement and emotion is still very difficult.

(01:06:35) - A romantic comedy would be much harder to produce with current AI capabilities.

(01:12:17) - For Frost 2 they are using text-to-video models like RunwayML.

(01:15:43) - AI voicing advancements applied to filmmaking

(01:19:27) - The future of AI in Hollywood and filmmaking: quality narratives still require human vision

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