614: David Yeager PhD - The Science of Motivating Young People: A Groundbreaking Approach To Leading The Next Generation (Author of 10 to 25)
Dec 23, 2024
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David Yeager, a psychology professor at the University of Texas and author of "10 to 25," shares insights on motivating young people. He emphasizes the balance of tough love: high standards combined with support. Yeager discusses how traditional nagging can shut down a teen’s logical thinking, advocating for calm communication instead. He also explores the shift in leadership styles, highlighting Satya Nadella’s supportive approach at Microsoft, contrasting it with the fear-driven methods of the past. This conversation is a treasure trove for anyone looking to inspire the next generation.
Effective leadership thrives on a balance of high standards and support, enriching both the leader's and the mentee's lives.
To motivate young people, it's crucial to engage their intrinsic needs for status and respect, avoiding negative assumptions about their capabilities.
Calm and respectful communication replaces nagging, fostering an environment where young individuals can engage and improve their decision-making skills.
Deep dives
The Impact of Supportive Leadership
Effective leadership goes beyond simply guiding others; it involves a profound personal benefit. When leaders adopt a coaching mindset and maintain high standards, they often find their own lives enriched through the connections they foster. This dynamic between high expectations and support is exemplified by personal stories, such as those shared by the speaker about impactful mentors. Ultimately, leaders can achieve success while creating a legacy that positively affects those they lead.
Motivating Young People
To effectively motivate individuals aged 10 to 25, it's essential to avoid viewing their behavior through a lens of incompetence, and instead, to recognize their potential for achievement. Effective mentors and leaders understand the importance of harnessing young people's intrinsic desires for status and respect, guiding them to see positive behaviors as aligned with their aspirations. Rather than imposing outdated perceptions that undervalue young people's abilities, fostering a supportive environment allows them to thrive and innovate. This approach not only cultivates motivation but also enables the younger generation to act as driving forces for societal change.
The Consequences of Parental Nagging
Nagging has been shown to trigger negative emotional responses in young people, effectively shutting down their rational thinking. Research indicates that the approach parents often take when trying to enforce rules can lead to anger and defensiveness, rather than compliance. Instead of nagging, more effective communication can be established through calm and respectful dialogues that acknowledge a young person's competence. This shift in dialogue allows for constructive conversations about expectations and behaviors, enhancing understanding and cooperation.
Balancing Criticism and Support as a Mentor
The Mentor's Dilemma highlights the challenge of providing constructive criticism without demotivating young individuals. A successful mentor must deliver feedback while ensuring that the mentee feels supported and empowered to improve. Utilizing real-world examples, effective mentors enable their protégés to build skills and navigate challenges while creating pathways to success. This balanced approach fosters an environment where criticism is seen as an opportunity for growth rather than a setback.
Shifting Corporate Culture for Innovation
Satya Nadella's leadership at Microsoft is marked by a significant cultural transformation aimed at fostering innovation through a supportive and collaborative environment. By moving away from fear-based tactics such as stack ranking, the organization shifted towards a model that emphasizes learning and growth. This philosophy centers on modeling desired behaviors, coaching for performance, and demonstrating care for employees, thereby rejuvenating a stagnant corporate culture. The notion that personal care fosters innovation aligns with the idea that when employees feel valued, they are more likely to take calculated risks that can lead to groundbreaking advancements.
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Notes:
The Pete and Leona story - What will people say about you at your funeral?
"They changed my life and the lives of my entire family."
Tough love out of 100% care for you.
Be tough AND supportive.
Don't lower your standards.
High standards. High support.
10 to 25 - Find the right trigger for motivation. Find out what they care about. They need meaning and significance. They want status and earned respect.
Are children less afraid of their parents now than they used to be? Dan Gilbert calls this the "illusion of moral decline." It's been happening for 75 years.
The Parental Nagging Study - A common tactic adults use to get teens to “pay attention.” Research shows that nagging triggers the emotional part of a teen’s brain, shutting down their ability to think logically. They’re not ignoring you on purpose—they’re simply wired to tune out. A better way? Speak calmly and neutrally to engage the part of their brain that handles planning and decision-making. This opens the door to real conversation.
Satya Nadella’s Model, Coach, Care philosophy at Microsoft. This is the opposite of Jack Welch’s rank and yank style at GE. Remember, the stack ranking methodology limited innovation and stopped people from taking any type of risk. We want to model the right behavior, coach others, and ensure they know we care for them so they feel the support they need to take risks, sometimes fail, get back up, and work to innovate.
Theory X = Rank and yank. It stifled innovation for fear of failure and getting fired.
Theory Y = No stack rankings. Built on connecting leaders with their people. Still high standards and demanding. Followed the "Model, Coach, Care" methodology. This is what's happening today at Microsoft. Be a place where people want to work.
The Mentor's Dilemma - Stef Okamoto - honest, direct, and supportive.
The "mentor's dilemma" refers to the challenge of balancing honest, critical feedback to young people while still maintaining their motivation and self-esteem, as this age group can be particularly sensitive to perceived criticism and may easily feel discouraged or disrespected if not approached carefully; essentially, it's the struggle between pushing someone to improve and potentially damaging their confidence by being too harsh.
The mentor mindset: A mentor mindset can be adopted by using practices such as validating young people's perspectives, asking them questions, and holding them to high standards.
Questioning – Kate, a mom of two who lives in Chicago, whose oldest son was a sophomore came home one night from a party drunk and high. Kate responded with a combination of yelling and prosecuting… She instigated an interrogation and not a two-way conversation. Instead of interrogating, get curious. They had a reason for what they did. Figure out why. What's your plan?
Ask questions to get them to own their thinking and share it with you.
Advice - Don’t accept some perceived path. Be reliable, show up, do the work, and ask for more work. Add surplus value. Whatever you’re being paid, focus on delivering 10x more value. Find a way to do that and your employer will beg to give you a raise and promote you.
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