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Pondering AI

Auditing AI with Ryan Carrier

Mar 19, 2025
52:31

Ryan Carrier trues up the benefits and costs of responsible AI while debunking misleading narratives and underscoring the positive power of the consumer collective.  

Ryan and Kimberly discuss the growth of AI governance; predictable resistance; the (mis)belief that safety impedes innovation; the “cost of doing business”; downside and residual risk; unacceptable business practices; regulatory trends and the law; effective disclosures and deceptive design; the value of independence; auditing as a business asset; the AI lifecycle; ethical expertise and choice; ethics boards as advisors not activists; and voting for beneficial AI with our wallets.  

A transcript of this episode is here.    

Ryan Carrier is the Executive Director of ForHumanity, a non-profit organization improving AI outcomes through increased accountability and oversight. 

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