Lenny's Podcast: Product | Growth | Career

Jackie Bavaro on getting better at product strategy, what exactly is strategy, PM pitfalls to avoid, advancing your career, getting into management, and much more

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Jun 16, 2022
Jackie Bavaro, author of "Cracking the PM Interview" and former Head of Product at Asana, shares her journey from product management at Google to leading teams at Asana. She dives into the essence of product strategy, breaking down its key components and common pitfalls for PMs. Jackie discusses the importance of mentorship, how to improve strategic thinking, and her best career advice for aspiring managers. She also emphasizes the value of hard work over titles and shares must-read recommendations for product managers.
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ANECDOTE

Jackie's Path to Asana

  • Jackie Bavaro, initially unaware of product management, became the first PM at Asana after a chance encounter.
  • Her journey started with an internship at Microsoft, followed by Google, and then Asana.
ANECDOTE

Saying "Yes" More

  • Early in her Asana career, Jackie adopted a defensive "no" mindset, prioritizing efficiency over collaboration.
  • Her boss's feedback and coaching helped her shift to a "yes" mindset, focusing on understanding problems.
ADVICE

Finding a Product Coach

  • Get a coach to work on specific issues or for continuous feedback and exploration of ideas.
  • Choose a coach based on whether you prefer targeted work or ongoing support.
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