The Learning Leader Show With Ryan Hawk

128: Donna Dubinsky - Standing Up To Steve Jobs And Being Right

May 30, 2016
Donna Dubinsky, a key player at Palm, Inc. and co-founder of Handspring, reflects on her bold confrontation with Steve Jobs at Apple, emphasizing the importance of courage in leadership. She discusses how curiosity and challenging the status quo paved the way for innovative thinking during her career. The conversation also explores the evolution of mobile technology and its impact on the industry. Additionally, Dubinsky shares insights on balancing innovation with workplace culture, and the dynamic nature of learning leadership in today’s fast-paced tech environment.
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INSIGHT

Keys To Sustained Excellence

  • Sustained excellence requires defying conventional wisdom through curiosity and intellectual depth.
  • Successful leaders listen as much as they talk, balancing inspiration with deep understanding.
ANECDOTE

Standing Up To Steve Jobs

  • Donna Dubinsky opposed Steve Jobs' plan to eliminate Apple's distribution centers because it would cripple the Apple II business.
  • Her firm stance led to a data-backed counterproposal and ultimately the shelving of the plan when Jobs left Apple.
INSIGHT

Learning From Steve Jobs' Style

  • Steve Jobs blended brilliant visionary product passion with a tough, often disrespectful leadership style.
  • Donna chose to embrace the passion but reject Jobs' harsh interpersonal approach in her own culture.
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