Four Illich Conversations, Part 1: Cayley & Hine

David Cayley and Dougald Hine discuss the legacy of Ivan Illich, exploring topics such as science, climate change, pandemics, ruins, friendship, the role of scientists, marginalized communities, Jewishness, thinning care, and prayer. They emphasize the relevance of Illich's ideas to our present situation, reflecting on the need to reevaluate assumptions of industrial society and find meaning in the current ruins. The chapter highlights Illich's influence, connections with world leaders, and the lack of implementation by politicians.