Annie Jacobsen, a Pulitzer Prize finalist and bestselling author, delves into the stark realities of nuclear war and government secrecy. She shares insights on the differences between atomic and thermonuclear weapons and the dire consequences of nuclear escalation, especially in light of current geopolitical tensions. Jacobsen also discusses her writing process, the complexities of trust in government, and urgent calls for disarmament. Intriguingly, she hints at her upcoming literary projects while reflecting on the enduring mysteries surrounding military technology and Area 51.
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Area 51 Origin Story
Annie Jacobsen's interest in national security began with a dinner party conversation.
An 88-year-old physicist, who had worked at Area 51, told her about his newly declassified work on stealth technology.
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Nuclear War Scenario
Jacobsen's book "Nuclear War" explores a scenario where nuclear deterrence fails.
She interviewed numerous high-ranking officials to understand the potential consequences of such an event.
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Nuclear War's Devastating Impact
A bolt-out-of-the-blue nuclear attack on Washington, D.C., is a major fear for the U.S. government.
The world would likely end within hours of a full-scale nuclear exchange with Russia.
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In 'Nuclear War: A Scenario', Annie Jacobsen presents a meticulously researched and chilling scenario of a nuclear war. The book begins with a surprise nuclear attack by North Korea on the United States, triggering a cascade of events that involve multiple nations and lead to catastrophic consequences. Jacobsen draws on exclusive interviews with military and civilian experts, as well as recently declassified government reports, to outline the minute-by-minute unfolding of a nuclear conflict. The book highlights the dangers of the 'Launch on Warning' policy, the inadequacy of current nuclear defenses, and the devastating impact on global civilization, including the immediate destruction, long-term environmental damage, and the eventual collapse of societal structures. Jacobsen's work serves as a call to action for disarmament and a stark reminder of the existential threat posed by nuclear weapons.
Area 51
An Uncensored History of America's Top Secret Military Base
Annie Jacobsen
Annie Jacobsen
This book provides a comprehensive and gripping narrative of the activities at Area 51, based on interviews with eyewitnesses and formerly classified information. It covers the base's history from its creation at the end of World War II to modern-day operations, including nuclear testing, the development of secret aircraft, and the involvement of various government agencies. Jacobsen's research uncovers the intricate and often secretive operations of the base, making it a seminal work on the subject.
On today’s episode, Andy sits down with Annie Jacobsen, a Pulitzer Prize finalist and bestselling author known for her investigative work on government secrecy, military history, and national security. They dive into the stark realities of nuclear war, the differences between atomic and thermonuclear weapons, and the consequences of nuclear escalation. Jacobsen shares her research methods, insights on government transparency, and what she’s learned from those responsible for nuclear stewardship. They also explore Area 51, military technology, and the enduring fascination with UAPs.
To read more from Annie, check out her newest novel Nuclear War
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