On today’s episode, Andy sits down with Annie Jacobsen, a Pulitzer Prize finalist and bestselling author known for her investigative work on government secrecy, military history, and national security. They dive into the stark realities of nuclear war, the differences between atomic and thermonuclear weapons, and the consequences of nuclear escalation. Jacobsen shares her research methods, insights on government transparency, and what she’s learned from those responsible for nuclear stewardship. They also explore Area 51, military technology, and the enduring fascination with UAPs.

To read more from Annie, check out her newest novel Nuclear War

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