Layman Pascal - How to Bridge Money & Meaning in the Liminal Space

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Mar 27, 2024

Layman Pascal, a pioneering thinker in metamodernism and integral philosophy, discusses bridging the gap between money and meaning. He shares insights on transforming the relationship with money at both personal and societal levels. The conversation dives into innovative economic experiments, the development of conscious business practices, and the importance of collaboration. Pascal also emphasizes community engagement and the role of collective action in addressing economic challenges, all while exploring the intersection of financial viability and meaningful work.

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Layman's Personal Money-Meaning Dance

Layman Pascal shared his personal journey prioritizing meaning over material wealth early in life.
He experimented with bridging material success and meaningful work, highlighting internal and external challenges.

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Metamodern Business Bureau Concept

Metamodern Business Bureau aims to connect trusted experts to form local, viable liminal business teams.
These teams generate surplus wealth to fund transformative cultural projects and personal lives.

INSIGHT

Need for Conscious Economic Education

Conscious economic education must filter classical theory through liminal values for relevance.
New economic experiments within these communities need to be documented and taught for collective success.

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Layman Pascal is a prominent thinker in the Liminal, Metamodern, Game B, and Integral spaces. His work explores post-metaphysics, nonduality, metamodernism, integral metatheory, new shamanism, the future of religion, developmental philosophy, and meta-progressive politics. He is also the co-host of the mind-bending Integral Stage podcast. This episode was a live event recorded during Limicon 2024 and explored some of Layman’s ideas from his two popular essays “The Metamodern Business Burea” & “Make Game A Pay for the Wall”. After our dialogue, we opened the floor for participants to ask questions and share reflections. We navigated a wide range of topics including transforming the money & meaning relationship on a personal and societal level, developing a more conscious approach to business, new economic experiments, starting liminal business crews, bridging left and right brain ways of knowing, our relationship to dopamine and so much more.

🔗[Links & resources] 🔗

The Metamodern Business Burea by Layman Pascal - https://laymanpascal.substack.com/p/the-metamodern-business-bureau-mmbb
Make Game A pay for the Wall by Laman Pascal - https://laymanpascal.substack.com/p/make-game-a-pay-for-the-wall?utm_source=profile&utm_medium=reader2
Layman’s substack - https://laymanpascal.substack.com/
Integral Stage podcast - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCaA4zkLRnR3lGm8Y7c5Tvdw
Linchpin by Seth Godin - https://www.amazon.com/Linchpin-Are-Indispensable-Seth-Godin/dp/1591844096

📝 [Show notes] 📝

0:00 - Introduction
2:40 -Transforming the money & meaning relationship on a personal and societal level
5:52 - Making the Metamodern Business Burea come alive
10:39 - Early examples of liminal business crews and what’s missing
13:42 - Developing a more conscious approach to business and economics education
16:45 - New economic experiments
20:16 - Finding clients who can pay for your services
27:52 - Do we need to be more careful, or more courageous, in our sources of material wealth?
33:23 - How we can influence the wealthiest families in the world to distribute their money?
36:50 - Do liminal & metamodern thinkers go over people’s heads?
38:16 - Finding your role in the liminal ecosystem (simplifying and complexifying)
41:08 - Connecting people with complementary skill sets and starting businesses
44:25 - Nominating liminal business leaders, failing forward, and learning from elders
49:30 - Group reflections
49:52 - It doesn’t need to be perfect we just need to take action
52:31 - Finding the right words to connect the liminal/metamodern space to the conventional world
57:07 - Bridging left and right brain ways of knowing
1:00:00 - Finding the economic model hidden in the inspiration and locating people & spaces at the edge of Game A
1:03:27 - How to do better business, why do we need marketing, bullshit jobs & our relationship to dopamine
1:13:22 - Mapping coherence and navigating divergence
1:16:32 - What’s next?

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