Layman Pascal, a pioneering thinker in metamodernism and integral philosophy, discusses bridging the gap between money and meaning. He shares insights on transforming the relationship with money at both personal and societal levels. The conversation dives into innovative economic experiments, the development of conscious business practices, and the importance of collaboration. Pascal also emphasizes community engagement and the role of collective action in addressing economic challenges, all while exploring the intersection of financial viability and meaningful work.
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Layman's Personal Money-Meaning Dance
Layman Pascal shared his personal journey prioritizing meaning over material wealth early in life.
He experimented with bridging material success and meaningful work, highlighting internal and external challenges.
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Metamodern Business Bureau Concept
Metamodern Business Bureau aims to connect trusted experts to form local, viable liminal business teams.
These teams generate surplus wealth to fund transformative cultural projects and personal lives.
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Need for Conscious Economic Education
Conscious economic education must filter classical theory through liminal values for relevance.
New economic experiments within these communities need to be documented and taught for collective success.
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Layman Pascal is a prominent thinker in the Liminal, Metamodern, Game B, and Integral spaces. His work explores post-metaphysics, nonduality, metamodernism, integral metatheory, new shamanism, the future of religion, developmental philosophy, and meta-progressive politics. He is also the co-host of the mind-bending Integral Stage podcast. This episode was a live event recorded during Limicon 2024 and explored some of Layman’s ideas from his two popular essays “The Metamodern Business Burea” & “Make Game A Pay for the Wall”. After our dialogue, we opened the floor for participants to ask questions and share reflections. We navigated a wide range of topics including transforming the money & meaning relationship on a personal and societal level, developing a more conscious approach to business, new economic experiments, starting liminal business crews, bridging left and right brain ways of knowing, our relationship to dopamine and so much more.
0:00 - Introduction 2:40 -Transforming the money & meaning relationship on a personal and societal level 5:52 - Making the Metamodern Business Burea come alive 10:39 - Early examples of liminal business crews and what’s missing 13:42 - Developing a more conscious approach to business and economics education 16:45 - New economic experiments 20:16 - Finding clients who can pay for your services 27:52 - Do we need to be more careful, or more courageous, in our sources of material wealth? 33:23 - How we can influence the wealthiest families in the world to distribute their money? 36:50 - Do liminal & metamodern thinkers go over people’s heads? 38:16 - Finding your role in the liminal ecosystem (simplifying and complexifying) 41:08 - Connecting people with complementary skill sets and starting businesses 44:25 - Nominating liminal business leaders, failing forward, and learning from elders 49:30 - Group reflections 49:52 - It doesn’t need to be perfect we just need to take action 52:31 - Finding the right words to connect the liminal/metamodern space to the conventional world 57:07 - Bridging left and right brain ways of knowing 1:00:00 - Finding the economic model hidden in the inspiration and locating people & spaces at the edge of Game A 1:03:27 - How to do better business, why do we need marketing, bullshit jobs & our relationship to dopamine 1:13:22 - Mapping coherence and navigating divergence 1:16:32 - What’s next?
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