Layman Pascal is a prominent thinker in the Liminal, Metamodern, Game B, and Integral spaces. His work explores post-metaphysics, nonduality, metamodernism, integral metatheory, new shamanism, the future of religion, developmental philosophy, and meta-progressive politics. He is also the co-host of the mind-bending Integral Stage podcast. This episode was a live event recorded during Limicon 2024 and explored some of Layman’s ideas from his two popular essays “The Metamodern Business Burea” & “Make Game A Pay for the Wall”. After our dialogue, we opened the floor for participants to ask questions and share reflections. We navigated a wide range of topics including transforming the money & meaning relationship on a personal and societal level, developing a more conscious approach to business, new economic experiments, starting liminal business crews, bridging left and right brain ways of knowing, our relationship to dopamine and so much more.


🔗[Links & resources] 🔗

The Metamodern Business Burea by Layman Pascal - https://laymanpascal.substack.com/p/the-metamodern-business-bureau-mmbb
Make Game A pay for the Wall by Laman Pascal - https://laymanpascal.substack.com/p/make-game-a-pay-for-the-wall?utm_source=profile&utm_medium=reader2
Layman’s substack - https://laymanpascal.substack.com/
Integral Stage podcast - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCaA4zkLRnR3lGm8Y7c5Tvdw
Linchpin by Seth Godin - https://www.amazon.com/Linchpin-Are-Indispensable-Seth-Godin/dp/1591844096


📝 [Show notes] 📝

0:00 - Introduction
2:40 -Transforming the money & meaning relationship on a personal and societal level
5:52 - Making the Metamodern Business Burea come alive
10:39 - Early examples of liminal business crews and what’s missing
13:42 - Developing a more conscious approach to business and economics education
16:45 - New economic experiments
20:16 - Finding clients who can pay for your services
27:52 - Do we need to be more careful, or more courageous, in our sources of material wealth?
33:23 - How we can influence the wealthiest families in the world to distribute their money?
36:50 - Do liminal & metamodern thinkers go over people’s heads?
38:16 - Finding your role in the liminal ecosystem (simplifying and complexifying)
41:08 - Connecting people with complementary skill sets and starting businesses
44:25 - Nominating liminal business leaders, failing forward, and learning from elders
49:30 - Group reflections
49:52 - It doesn’t need to be perfect we just need to take action
52:31 - Finding the right words to connect the liminal/metamodern space to the conventional world
57:07 - Bridging left and right brain ways of knowing
1:00:00 - Finding the economic model hidden in the inspiration and locating people & spaces at the edge of Game A 
1:03:27 - How to do better business, why do we need marketing, bullshit jobs & our relationship to dopamine 
1:13:22 - Mapping coherence and navigating divergence
1:16:32 - What’s next?


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