The Happiness Squad Podcast with Ashish Kothari

Flourishing Through Work: Leading with Courage and Kindness with Grace Zuncic

Sep 30, 2025
Grace Zuncic, a seasoned executive known for her roles at Chobani and Cotopaxi, dives into the essence of flourishing at work. She argues that a culture of courage and kindness is crucial for unlocking human potential, not just wellbeing programs. Grace shares insights on how fear stifles contribution, revealing that clear roles and trust are key to engagement. The discussion highlights the impact of human-centered leadership during COVID and emphasizes that private equity must prioritize culture for sustainable growth. A compelling conversation on leading with heart!
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ANECDOTE

A Cold Call That Changed Her Career

  • Grace called the 1-800 number on a Chobani cup and eventually joined the company.
  • That impulsive outreach led to a decade at Chobani that reshaped her career and purpose.
ADVICE

Pair Courage With Kindness

  • Be courageous in holding hard conversations and take micro-acts of courage daily.
  • Pair courage with kindness to support people and place them where they can thrive.
ADVICE

Design Work, Don’t Bolt On Wellbeing

  • Don’t treat wellbeing programs as a substitute for meaningful work design.
  • Focus on daily team relationships, clear roles, and shared goals to create sustained flourishing.
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