Joe De Sena is the founder and CEO of Spartan. He ran 50 ultra-marathons in one year and is an absolute savage in all that he does. It was awesome to dive into the mindset and foundations of someone who's been able to instill such a culture within his company and all that they do, something I continually aspire to do. 

In this episode, we talk about raising kids, proactivity vs. reactivity, getting invaluable lessons through unlikely sources, the driving force of entrepreneurs, staying motivated, and what it means to be a hunter-gatherer compared to a farmer. 

I hope you guys enjoy this episode as much as I did! Joe, thanks again, my brother. It's always a pleasure! 

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