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Russia, Poland and drones – What next for Putin and Europe?

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Sep 11, 2025
Join Ian Garner, an Assistant Professor at the Centre for Totalitarian Studies, as he delves into the implications of recent Russian drone incursions into Polish airspace. The conversation uncovers how these agitations are reshaping NATO's strategic responses and triggering unprecedented political unity in Poland. Garner highlights the historical context of these tensions and explores sentiments surrounding Poland's security amidst shifting geopolitical landscapes. His insights illuminate the complex dynamics of Eastern European politics today.
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INSIGHT

Drones Crossed Into NATO Airspace

  • Multiple Russian drones crossed into Polish airspace and four were shot down by F‑35s overnight.
  • Ian Garner says this is a real threat and represents a significant escalation for Poland and NATO.
INSIGHT

Testing NATO With Incremental Moves

  • The likely intent behind such incursions is to probe NATO's red lines rather than to start full-scale war.
  • Ian Garner frames this as Putin using incremental tactics to test Western responses.
ADVICE

Follow Emergency Alerts Promptly

  • Citizens should heed emergency alerts and avoid approaching downed or active drones.
  • Garner describes wide use of alert systems in Poland and closure of airspace as practical safety steps.
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