Arthur Hayes and Will Clemente on How This Bitcoin Halving Is Different - Ep. 633
Apr 16, 2024
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Arthur Hayes, CIO of Maelstrom, and Will Clemente, co-founder of Reflexivity Research, discuss the rise in Bitcoin prices before the upcoming halving, the impact of spot Bitcoin ETFs in the US, potential effects of the halving on price trajectory, macroeconomics, L2s on Bitcoin, and price predictions for bitcoin by year-end. They explore factors like demographics, inflation, ETF approval altering price trajectory, 'last cycle' speculation, and AI's impact on the market.
Approval of spot Bitcoin ETFs impacted BTC price trajectory pre-halving.
Potential 'sell the news' scenario post-halving linked to macroeconomic factors.
Layer 2 solutions on Bitcoin, like Ethereum, need strong incentives for adoption.
Deep dives
Bitcoin Price Expectations Post-Having
The podcast discusses the impact of the Bitcoin halving on its price trajectory. Even though the Bitcoin price increased before the halving, there is a belief that this occurrence was influenced by factors like the approval of spot Bitcoin ETFs. It is predicted that there might be a 'sell the news' scenario post-halving, with potential future price movements dependent on macroeconomic factors.
Coinbase Mispricing and Potential Catalysts for Alts
The mispricing of Coinbase stock is highlighted, with the underlying crypto-native revenue potential not being fully factored in by investors. The discussion centers around Coinbase's shift towards a broader crypto super app model, focusing on products like Base and the potential wealth effect of upcoming airdrops such as FriendTech. Coinbase's distribution network and user base are seen as key strengths, indicating a competitive advantage over other platforms.
The Role of Layer 2 Solutions on Bitcoin
The emergence of Layer 2 solutions on Bitcoin, similar to those on Ethereum, is explored. While the adoption of Layer 2 solutions on Bitcoin is seen as a potential step towards addressing long-term security concerns and enhancing network activity, the necessity of providing compelling incentives for Bitcoin holders to adopt these solutions is emphasized. The utilization of oracles and cultural trends on these Layer 2 platforms, such as ordinals, is viewed positively for driving activity and fees to enhance network security.
New Protocol Runes Launching with UTXO Model
A new protocol called Runes, developed by Casey Rotomar, aims to utilize the Unspent Transaction Output (UTXO) model and will be completely on-chain, requiring fees paid on layer one. The creator believes that if successful, Runes could divert liquidity, technology, and attention away from other cryptocurrencies back to Bitcoin.
Crypto Landscape Trends and Speculative Assets
As the crypto market evolves, trends like meme coins on Solana gain popularity, highlighting shifts from Bitcoin to other altcoins during market cycles. The discussion shifts towards the rise of synthetic dollars like Athena, offering high interest rates. Additionally, the integration of AI with crypto presents potential growth areas in infrastructure such as compute power and storage, emphasizing the importance of investable infrastructure narratives in the evolving crypto landscape.
The Bitcoin halving is just around the corner, expected to be on April 19 or April 20.
Arthur Hayes, CIO of Maelstrom, and Will Clemente, co-founder of Reflexivity Research discuss the rise in Bitcoin prices ahead of the halving, the impact of the approval of spot Bitcoin ETFs in the US, and the potential effects of the halving on the price trajectory post-halving. They also discuss the potential impact of a new class of investors on Bitcoin's price, volatility, and decentralization.
Moreover, they dive into the impact of the macroeconomics, geopolitical, and demographic conditions for the crypto asset industry, the potential for L2s on Bitcoin, and their price predictions for bitcoin by year-end.
Show highlights:
How the approval of spot Bitcoin ETFs altered the price trajectory of BTC before the halving
Whether the introduction of spot Bitcoin ETFs impacts Bitcoin's decentralization and price volatility
Whether this cycle could be the "last cycle" or the "supercycle"
Why Arthur predicts a 90% drawdown in the future and how they determine when the markets are nearing the top of the cycle
The effect of high inflation, the election, and the termination of the bank term funding program on Bitcoin
How artificial intelligence is expected to trigger a productivity boom, according to Will
Why Will considers Coinbase to be mispriced
Whether Bitcoin L2s have a future and if security budgets are a concern
Their views on Bitcoin Ordinals and the Runes Protocol launch
Why Will views DOGE as a purer commodity than ETH
Arthur's rebuttal to claims that Ethena could follow in Terra/Luna’s footsteps
Arthur's and Will’s Bitcoin price projections for the end of the year and the cycle