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Timestamps :

00:00 Intro

00:57 Podcast Overview

01:32 Guest Introduction

04:02 Episode Outline

05:34 Emergence of Professional Delegates

09:22 Role of Juanbug in PGov

11:26 Growth of Grant Programs

13:36 Stable Lab's Involvement in Incentive Programs

19:49 Holistic Approach to Grant Programs

21:50 Direct Grants and Their Challenges

23:27 Arbitrum's Governance Evolution

25:07 Transparency in Grant Allocations

26:24 Shifting Perspectives on Impact Metrics

29:10 Incentivizing Sustainable Growth

31:00 Examples of Innovative Grant Models

33:13 Creative Grant Administration Solutions

36:17 Challenges of representing token holders' interests 

39:10 Balancing Dual Roles

42:25 Getting Involved in Governance

43:52 Stable Lab's Work and Engagement

46:24 Vote of Thanks

46:37 Outro

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