793 Jen Fisher: Author of Hope Is the Strategy

Jan 26, 2026

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On today’s episode, Kara welcomes Jen Fisher, global workplace wellbeing expert and bestselling author of Hope Is the Strategy — the bold new book that reframes hope as one of the most powerful leadership tools of our time.
Jen is no stranger to redefining how we work. As Deloitte’s first-ever Chief Wellbeing Officer, she helped transform the way global organizations think about human sustainability, burnout, and what it truly means to thrive. Her own experience with chronic burnout and cancer pushed her to ask deeper questions — not just about how we work, but why.
Today, as the founder of The Wellbeing Team, Jen is helping companies build cultures rooted in empathy, wellbeing intelligence, and what she calls “strategic hope.” Through her book, her podcast WorkWell, and her work with leaders around the world, Jen is showing that hope isn’t just an emotion — it’s a business imperative.
In this episode, Jen shares the story behind her burnout recovery, why wellbeing programs alone won’t fix broken systems, and how leaders at every level can start being “hope dealers” inside their companies. We dive into the difference between toxic resilience and true sustainability, why vulnerability in leadership is a superpower, and how we can all bring more humanity into how we work and lead.
A must-listen for anyone who’s ever felt like they’re running on empty — and knows there’s a better way forward.

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To learn more about Jen Fisher and Hope Is the Strategy:
https://www.jen-fisher.com/
https://www.instagram.com/jenfish23/?hl=en
https://www.linkedin.com/in/jen-fisher-cwbo/
https://www.amazon.com/Hope-Strategy-Underrated-Transforms-Leadership/dp/1394362978