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Ken Burns & Sarah Botstein on Finding Hope in America’s Brutal Beginnings

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Nov 17, 2025
Ken Burns, the acclaimed documentary filmmaker known for his historical series, teams up with Sarah Botstein, a co-director of 'The American Revolution.' Together, they discuss the complexities of America's founding, highlighting George Washington's moral flaws amidst his leadership. The duo explores how enslaved African Americans perceived the British as a beacon of hope, challenging the notion of all Loyalists as traitors. They also stress the importance of uncovering nuanced history and civic engagement, revealing reasons to find hope in America's past.
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INSIGHT

Revolution Made Citizens Not Subjects

  • The American Revolution created a new idea: people could be citizens, not subjects.
  • Ken Burns argues this shift is uniquely transformative in world history.
INSIGHT

Founders Figured Things Out As They Went

  • Founders themselves debated goals and adapted as events unfolded during the Revolution.
  • Sarah Botstein says these evolving debates made the Revolution feel like an underdog story.
ANECDOTE

Reenactors Filmed As Living Photographs

  • Ken Burns filmed reenactors over years impressionistically to stand in for missing photos.
  • He used those shots like photographs to complement paintings, documents, and actors' readings.
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