

How the State Captures Bitcoin w/ American HODL
40 snips Jun 5, 2025
In this engaging discussion, American HODL, an OG Bitcoiner, dives into the intricate relationship between Bitcoin and state power. He warns about the potential absorption of Bitcoin into public markets through financial instruments like ETFs. The conversation highlights the moral dilemmas of financializing Bitcoin and questions whether self-custody will face regulatory backlash. American HODL also debates whether it's wiser to resist or infiltrate state structures, and considers the transformative future of Bitcoin amidst growing regulatory scrutiny.
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- This approach allows the state to control Bitcoin indirectly without banning it outright.