Shadi quizzes Damir about his belief in the possibility of progress and social change, before the conversation spins off into a discussion about the creative process, selling out, and the nature of success.

Reading (Listening) List:

"How a Great Power Falls Apart" by Charles King (Foreign Affairs)

"The Problem With Music" by Steve Albini (The Baffler)

"Atmosphere" by The Oranges Band

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