Avoiding Babylon The Ecclesiastical Longhouse w/ Mike Pantile
Is modern Catholicism failing young men? In this raw, unfiltered conversation, we tackle the controversial topic of gynocentric Catholicism and why increasing numbers of young men feel alienated from religious spaces.
The catalyst for our discussion was a viral photo of Catholic influencers that sparked debate about representation, masculinity, and the "optics" of Catholic content creation. While we're careful not to attack individuals, we explore the crucial broader conversation: why do many young Catholic men feel that mainstream Catholic content doesn't speak to them?
We dive fearlessly into topics often considered taboo in polite Catholic circles: the feminist influences that have seeped into Catholic messaging, the diminishment of male leadership, and the reluctance to address women's responsibilities in marriage while freely discussing men's duties. This imbalance creates a vacuum that figures like Andrew Tate exploit by offering a distorted version of masculine identity.
Our guests Josiah and Mike Pantile bring powerful insights about what young men are seeking in authentic Catholic teaching. They highlight the importance of presenting Catholicism as compatible with natural masculine virtues - strength, protection, leadership - while rejecting both toxic masculinity and effeminate Christianity.
Perhaps most valuably, we discuss practical solutions: how men can reclaim their role as spiritual leaders in their homes, set appropriate boundaries, mentor younger men, and present a compelling alternative to both secular culture and hyper-traditionalism.
This conversation isn't about turning back the clock or diminishing women's dignity. Rather, it's about restoring balance and presenting the fullness of Catholic teaching on gender complementarity in a world desperately seeking authentic models of masculinity and femininity. If you're concerned about the future of faith among young men, this episode offers uncomfortable truths and hopeful pathways forward.
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